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	Comments on: Obama tells a whopper about McCain and Social Security: Factcheck.org	</title>
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		By: ken		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[While fact check may be objective Warren, you clearly are not.  Obama and McCain are politicians.  They both play the same political games of negative campaigning and dissembling.  And they do it because that is what wins elections.  This fact is more a sad commentary on the american populace than it is on either of them .
And frankly Warren, your willingness to jump on any faults of the Obama campaign while ignoring the same faults in the McCain campaign is a commentary on your own  biases and willingness to have an honest discussion of the candidates.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While fact check may be objective Warren, you clearly are not.  Obama and McCain are politicians.  They both play the same political games of negative campaigning and dissembling.  And they do it because that is what wins elections.  This fact is more a sad commentary on the american populace than it is on either of them .<br />
And frankly Warren, your willingness to jump on any faults of the Obama campaign while ignoring the same faults in the McCain campaign is a commentary on your own  biases and willingness to have an honest discussion of the candidates.</p>
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		By: Legolas		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/09/20/obama-tells-a-whopper-about-mccain-and-social-security-factcheckorg/#comment-19359</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 19:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As I already posted in your comments &lt;a href=&quot;/2008/09/11/obama-supporter-americans-are-being-fooled-by-incompetent-corrupt-liars/#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, if we&#039;re really looking to places like factcheck and politifact to tell us which campaign is being more truthful overall, the winner isn&#039;t the McCain campaign, and in fact it isn&#039;t even close.
Of course, what the articles you link to also say is that it is true the Bush plan McCain supported would cut benefits over time by ~30%, and that Obama&#039;s claims about benefits being at the risk of the market would be true for future retirees in a hypothetical future where the Bush plan had passed.  It&#039;s unfortunate the Obama campaign felt they needed to go one step further than the truth, since I think for their audiences the truth would be horrifying enough.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I already posted in your comments <a href="/2008/09/11/obama-supporter-americans-are-being-fooled-by-incompetent-corrupt-liars/#comments" rel="nofollow">here</a>, if we&#8217;re really looking to places like factcheck and politifact to tell us which campaign is being more truthful overall, the winner isn&#8217;t the McCain campaign, and in fact it isn&#8217;t even close.<br />
Of course, what the articles you link to also say is that it is true the Bush plan McCain supported would cut benefits over time by ~30%, and that Obama&#8217;s claims about benefits being at the risk of the market would be true for future retirees in a hypothetical future where the Bush plan had passed.  It&#8217;s unfortunate the Obama campaign felt they needed to go one step further than the truth, since I think for their audiences the truth would be horrifying enough.</p>
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		By: Jayhuck		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 13:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Factcheck.org is pretty objective.  They have several pieces talking about misrepresentation not only by McCain, but by Palin as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Factcheck.org is pretty objective.  They have several pieces talking about misrepresentation not only by McCain, but by Palin as well.</p>
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