Comments on: Obama supporter: Americans are being fooled by "incompetent, corrupt liars"

By: ken

ken — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:35:04 +0000

Byron said in post 126657: hanks for agreeing on the main point I was making… However, I don't agree with you. Cesca's comment may have been hyperbole, but it was not asinine. His main point in that statement, America is worse off, is not wrong.

By: Byron

Byron — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:08:53 +0000

Though I’m not even sure I agree with you on the point, thanks for agreeing on the main point I was making…

By: ken

ken — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:52:36 +0000

Byron said in post 126590 : Nobody is commenting on something utterly asinine that Cesca wrote: “America is exponentially worse off than it was in 2000 or 2004.” While Cesca's use of the term "exponentially" is an exaggeration, he is not wrong when he says America is worse off.

By: Byron

Byron — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:58:21 +0000

Nobody is commenting on something utterly asinine that Cesca wrote:
“America is exponentially worse off than it was in 2000 or 2004.”
That would be hysterical if not for the fact that there are some dupes who actually believe that, being fed a steady diet of it by the left. It just gets said, absent supporting documents/facts (but then again, facts often don’t matter these days). Wonder if this bozo Cesca’s life is “exponentially worse off”.
Please. When ridiculous things like this are said, they disqualify the writer’s other remarks from serious consideration by reasonable people.

By: Karen Booth

Karen Booth — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:22:01 +0000

Furthermore, Minty … Governor Palin has NOT requested earmarks for Alaska. Governors don’t have the power to do that.
The exact quote from the LA Times is this – “But under her leadership, the state of Alaska has requested 31 earmarks worth $197.8 million in next year’s federal budget, according to the website of Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska), the former chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee.”
Meaning Alaska’s congressional leadership has made the request, one of whom – Ted Stevens – is under investigation for fraud.
Palin did seek federal funding for several projects while she was mayor of Wasila. Perhaps, again, she has changed her mind with more experience.

By: Karen Booth

Karen Booth — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:13:29 +0000

Regarding the bridge, Minty … Palin was in favor during her gubernatorial run and then against it once she gained more experience in office. It’s called “changing your mind once you’re more informed of the situation.”
Perhaps you could explain (or try to justify) the fact that both Biden and Obama voted more than once for the legislation that included the bridge. McCain was one of a very small minority that voted against it.

By: Legolas

Legolas — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:31:13 +0000

Marty –
I think that’s a fairly accurate, if ahistorical, account of where politics is at the moment. Can you provide a narrative of how you think we got to this point?
For example, I think McCain was agreed to be a fairly moderate and fair-minded Republican by most Americans up to the point of this campaign season. But, can you think of any reasons why they might be of a different opinion now based on things he has said and done in the last 12 months, or even 3 months? I sure can.

By: minty

minty — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:37:59 +0000

Five to one, people think the media is biased toward Obama.

Can you articulate why this “liberal” media was so quick to jump all over Hillary Clinton’s silly Bosnia fib, and not on Palin/McCain’s much more consequential policy lies?
Just today on the View, McCain claimed Palin never asked for earmarks as governor of Alaska. This is a flat-out lie. Palin requested nearly $200 million this year, and she was the first mayor of Wasilla to hire a Washington lobbyist, with fabulous results. (Alaska is heavy subsidized by the US government.)

By: minty

minty — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:30:21 +0000

Here’s what infuriates me. Palin has repeated her lie about the Bridge to Nowhere – which she supported during her gubernatorial campaign – over twenty times now. At one point does the media start doing it’s job and call this a flat-out lie? Because that’s what it is.
Our nonfunctional, complacent press is part of why we ended up in this disastrous foreign policy mess. C’e la vie, I guess.

By: Marty

Marty — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:35:16 +0000

Just when you think the left cannot get any more hysterically vitriolic, they ratchet things up another notch. Sarah Palin has them in fits of violent rage.
I’m afraid that one of these days, our political divisions must result in physical violence. Our differences are only growing wider it seems, when a moderate republican like McCain (someone who is considered a democrat by the right wing of his party) is portrayed as a right wing extremist by the left.
The center has collapsed. You are either for us or against us. Bring it on.