Comments on: Some light on Sarah Palin's church affiliation

By: lwellsnyc

lwellsnyc — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:16:33 +0000

Let me go back to an earlier thread, and maybe shed light on the “baptism” question. In Charismatic churches there are two events in the life of a child/adult that stay in the church. One is that the child is “dedicated” and that usually takes the place of the traditional Protestant ceremony of “baptism.” In other words, the congregation agrees to bless the child. Now, comes, in Charismatic, Penticostal Churches, et. al. the time for “decision”, or a commitment on the part of the teenager/young adult or adult in following the path of Christ and being “baptised.” This is usually a full immersion.
The difference here, is that in the infant, the parent or parents are “christening” the child…sprinkling with water by the clergy…or “dedicating” that the child will be brought up in the Christian tradition. Different faiths have different wording for all of this.
“Baptism” in the fundimentalist tradition, or charasmatic tradition is chosen by the person, and it is done with their full knowledge.
Does this help explain the really quite “non-fishy” aspect of Palin’s journey? Unless, of course, the Baptism was done in a river or lake! Might be some fish in there.

By: dh

dh — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:31:53 +0000

“Effectively giving away what belongs to all of America in favor of a few in Alaska who would effectively rape it”
As a 46 year resident of Alaska I think your a tad bit out there. 1. States rights 2.The fed ALLREADY own most of AK 3. By raping it do you mean natrual resource development? Seems the EPA does a pretty darn good job of keeping the US clean. Until you make a trip to the remote regiuons of Ak and see FIRST HAND what mining companies and oil comapnies are mandated to do to keep the enviroment clean..Example workers can not empty coffee cups on the ground, you may want to hold off on believing the media reports on oil and resource development here. BTW, I frankly would like less of it just because I prefer less people. I would gladly cut wood for heat and pay more for supplies ot have the Alaska I knew as a child. Environmentalist have done just as much damage to this place as any other group. Last time I saw visual support of an environmental cause or a democrat, it was on the bumper of a 3/4 ton chevy truck. That made me chuckle.

By: Lynn David

Lynn David — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 03:06:55 +0000

I have less worries about Alaskan separatism than I do about a major land grab by the state of Alaska of Federal lands while McCain/Palin would be in office. Effectively giving away what belongs to all of America in favor of a few in Alaska who would effectively rape it. It seems Palin is not in that respect a maverick, but would work for natuaral resources interests in Alaska to enrich Alaskans, not put money in the US Treasury.
And to top it off I’ve seen a few evangelicals speaking frankly about how old and possibly ill McCain might be, and how it just might be “nice” if he were to die in office and Palin become president. As one put it, if god were to take McCain so that abortion would become illegal. Huh???
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Ok, Ayers. Not convicted of anything (not even Chicago’68), lots blather that might mean nothing. Worked for Richard Daley. A distinguished professor at the U of I – Chicago, a leader in school improvement, and appointed to the Woods Fund for his “passion for social justice.” Ayers lived in the same area as Barack Obama, who was also appointed to a seat on the Woods Fund on Poverty (3 years overlap), and got $200 from Ayers for his state senate race in 2001. And?
Like one guy I read on this said, “I have done community work locally with individuals I barely knew and found out later that they had previous criminal records. Now if I run for office will I be guilty by association? With this kind of logic serving diner at a soup kitchen can be politically damning act.”
And Ayers isn’t even an ex-con.

By: Warren

Warren — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:40:33 +0000

@Lynn David: Thanks for the links. Whatever her connections were, she clearly does not believe in independence now, nor has she as Governor. Apparently, she decided Alaska is a state, eh?
Now, how about William Ayers and Barack Obama?

By: Lynn David

Lynn David — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:27:22 +0000

Yes, records show Ms Palin was never a registered voter for the AIP. But for all but two months from 1995 to 2002, the governor’s husband was registered as an Alaskan Independence Party member, according to the Alaska Division of Elections.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-aip3-2008sep03,0,6399468.story

“Keep up the good work,” Sarah Palin told members of the Alaskan Independence Party in a videotaped speech to their convention six months ago in Fairbanks. She wished the party luck on what she called its “inspiring convention.” …
Palin and her husband attended the party’s 1994 convention at a Best Western in Wasilla, Alaska, said former Chairman Mark Chryson, a computer repairman who is now the party’s webmaster. …
Dexter Clark, an Alaskan Independence Party vice chairman, brought up Palin’s ties to the group in videotaped remarks to the second North American Secessionist Convention in October in Chattanooga, Tenn. “She was an AIP member before she got the job as the mayor of a small town,” Clark told the group. “That was a nonpartisan job. But you get along to go along. She eventually joined the Republican Party.”