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		By: Drowssap		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/08/25/a-conservative-defense-of-sex-research/#comment-19067</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Ann&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; I am more interested in positive research that can lead to answering heretofor questions instead of marinating in a mindset that places a priority on scrutinizing a comment in hopes of finding something homophobic&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That was your greatest point of all time.  8-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ann</strong></p>
<blockquote><p> I am more interested in positive research that can lead to answering heretofor questions instead of marinating in a mindset that places a priority on scrutinizing a comment in hopes of finding something homophobic</p></blockquote>
<p>That was your greatest point of all time.  😎</p>
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		By: Evan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This reminds me of a debate in which Deborah Blum said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;We&#039;re pretty good at being the messenger to raise the provocative debate .So the only time I remember being completely taken aback, it actually wasn&#039;t a male-female thing but I was on a transsexual radio show up in the New England area and I was talking about something that I was calling a genetic defect, which was a situation which is common in the Dominican Republic. They call it guevadoce, where you appear to be female until 12 and then as you go into puberty a big rush of testosterone, everything descends and suddenly you&#039;re a guy. And in all the scientific literature this was called a defect. And I went on the radio show, I was running through some of what made that interesting to me and I got really dinged for calling it a defect. You know, who do you think you are to call people defective? Why don&#039;t you call it a genetic variation?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
And she finally called it a variation, although she&#039;s not a big fan of PC.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of a debate in which Deborah Blum said:</p>
<blockquote><p>We&#8217;re pretty good at being the messenger to raise the provocative debate .So the only time I remember being completely taken aback, it actually wasn&#8217;t a male-female thing but I was on a transsexual radio show up in the New England area and I was talking about something that I was calling a genetic defect, which was a situation which is common in the Dominican Republic. They call it guevadoce, where you appear to be female until 12 and then as you go into puberty a big rush of testosterone, everything descends and suddenly you&#8217;re a guy. And in all the scientific literature this was called a defect. And I went on the radio show, I was running through some of what made that interesting to me and I got really dinged for calling it a defect. You know, who do you think you are to call people defective? Why don&#8217;t you call it a genetic variation?</p></blockquote>
<p>And she finally called it a variation, although she&#8217;s not a big fan of PC.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/08/25/a-conservative-defense-of-sex-research/#comment-19065</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Or is this your biases that are showing.&lt;/em&gt;
Patrick,
This kind of comment is really old and tiring and not effective anymore.  I have no clue what causes any sexual orientation and do not come from the premise that either one is wrong.  I do know that there is unwanted sexual desires and attractions on all levels from a lot of people and applaud any and all research in this area to facilitate the answers they deserve.  Drowssap makes many good points regarding environmental issues, including germs, and that makes sense to me.  I am more interested in positive research that can lead to answering heretofor questions instead of marinating in a mindset that places a priority on scrutinizing a comment in hopes of finding something homophobic - really, it just doesn&#039;t work anymore.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Or is this your biases that are showing.</em><br />
Patrick,<br />
This kind of comment is really old and tiring and not effective anymore.  I have no clue what causes any sexual orientation and do not come from the premise that either one is wrong.  I do know that there is unwanted sexual desires and attractions on all levels from a lot of people and applaud any and all research in this area to facilitate the answers they deserve.  Drowssap makes many good points regarding environmental issues, including germs, and that makes sense to me.  I am more interested in positive research that can lead to answering heretofor questions instead of marinating in a mindset that places a priority on scrutinizing a comment in hopes of finding something homophobic &#8211; really, it just doesn&#8217;t work anymore.</p>
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		By: Drowssap		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/08/25/a-conservative-defense-of-sex-research/#comment-19064</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Patrick&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Ah, but is it necessarily a ‘bad’ germ that would cause someone to be gay. Or is this your biases that are showing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You&#039;re right, and that&#039;s why it should be up to the individual to decide.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Patrick</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>Ah, but is it necessarily a ‘bad’ germ that would cause someone to be gay. Or is this your biases that are showing.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re right, and that&#8217;s why it should be up to the individual to decide.</p>
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		By: Drowssap		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/08/25/a-conservative-defense-of-sex-research/#comment-19063</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drowssap]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Ann&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;I wash my hands ALL the time and never, ever touch a door handle either without using my blouse or something else as a buffer. It has definitely helped me from getting colds, etc.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You are doing it exactly right.  It doesn&#039;t mean we might not drop dead of brain cancer tomorrow but lowering our germ load certainly cuts out a huge (if not biggest) risk factor for illness.
&lt;blockquote&gt;I really believe you are ahead of a lot of people in your theories regarding germs and how the bad ones can affect us, including sexual orientation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You are too kind.  8-)  Smarter people than me are figuring this stuff out, but my mind is open to listening.  Just about any time something reduces fertility (or fitness) in young people you can bet it&#039;s environment 99.9% of the time.  Among all environmental factors germs and viruses (and the bodies response to them) stand head and shoulders above the rest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ann</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>I wash my hands ALL the time and never, ever touch a door handle either without using my blouse or something else as a buffer. It has definitely helped me from getting colds, etc.</p></blockquote>
<p>You are doing it exactly right.  It doesn&#8217;t mean we might not drop dead of brain cancer tomorrow but lowering our germ load certainly cuts out a huge (if not biggest) risk factor for illness.</p>
<blockquote><p>I really believe you are ahead of a lot of people in your theories regarding germs and how the bad ones can affect us, including sexual orientation.</p></blockquote>
<p>You are too kind.  😎  Smarter people than me are figuring this stuff out, but my mind is open to listening.  Just about any time something reduces fertility (or fitness) in young people you can bet it&#8217;s environment 99.9% of the time.  Among all environmental factors germs and viruses (and the bodies response to them) stand head and shoulders above the rest.</p>
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		By: Patrick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I really believe you are ahead of a lot of people in your theories regarding germs and how the bad ones can affect us, including sexual orientation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Ah, but is it necessarily a &#039;bad&#039; germ that would cause someone to be gay.  Or is this your biases that are showing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I really believe you are ahead of a lot of people in your theories regarding germs and how the bad ones can affect us, including sexual orientation.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, but is it necessarily a &#8216;bad&#8217; germ that would cause someone to be gay.  Or is this your biases that are showing.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/08/25/a-conservative-defense-of-sex-research/#comment-19061</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[thanks Drowssap - that is what I thought but just wanted to make sure.  I know about the healthy germs and how it is important to have the balance.  I wash my hands ALL the time and never, ever touch a door handle either without using my blouse or something else as a buffer.  It has definitely helped me from getting colds, etc.  I really believe you are ahead of a lot of people in your theories regarding germs and how the bad ones can affect us, including sexual orientation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks Drowssap &#8211; that is what I thought but just wanted to make sure.  I know about the healthy germs and how it is important to have the balance.  I wash my hands ALL the time and never, ever touch a door handle either without using my blouse or something else as a buffer.  It has definitely helped me from getting colds, etc.  I really believe you are ahead of a lot of people in your theories regarding germs and how the bad ones can affect us, including sexual orientation.</p>
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		By: Drowssap		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Ann&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Right - another thing to consider is if some are not so harmful then why do we have to kill them with antibiotics, etc.?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
There is a ballance of germs that keeps us healthy.  But outsider germs can make us sick.  I wash my hands A LOT and I do my best to never touch door handles in public.  That&#039;s where the enemy germs come from.
Yes, bacteria are definitiely germs.  The global term is &quot;Pathogen.&quot;  That means germs and viruses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ann</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>Right &#8211; another thing to consider is if some are not so harmful then why do we have to kill them with antibiotics, etc.?</p></blockquote>
<p>There is a ballance of germs that keeps us healthy.  But outsider germs can make us sick.  I wash my hands A LOT and I do my best to never touch door handles in public.  That&#8217;s where the enemy germs come from.<br />
Yes, bacteria are definitiely germs.  The global term is &#8220;Pathogen.&#8221;  That means germs and viruses.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;People who don’t take germs seriously are so 20th century&lt;/em&gt;
Right - another thing to consider is if some are not so harmful then why do we have to kill them with antibiotics, etc.?  BTW - is bacteria considered germs?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>People who don’t take germs seriously are so 20th century</em><br />
Right &#8211; another thing to consider is if some are not so harmful then why do we have to kill them with antibiotics, etc.?  BTW &#8211; is bacteria considered germs?</p>
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		By: Drowssap		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drowssap]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Ann&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;This is off topic but please look on Associated Press today about infection and premature babies - think you will find it interesting&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Thanks and yes I did see it.  8-)
And on a related note
&lt;blockquote&gt;Researchers at Johns Hopkins have dispelled the widespread belief among obstetricians that, in premature infants, brain injury results from a lack of oxygen, also called hypoxia, when, in fact, infection plays a larger role.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Google:&lt;/strong&gt; Infection, Not Lack Of Oxygen, Plays Larger Role In Premature Infant Brain Injury
People who don&#039;t take germs seriously are so 20th century.  8-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ann</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>This is off topic but please look on Associated Press today about infection and premature babies &#8211; think you will find it interesting</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks and yes I did see it.  😎<br />
And on a related note</p>
<blockquote><p>Researchers at Johns Hopkins have dispelled the widespread belief among obstetricians that, in premature infants, brain injury results from a lack of oxygen, also called hypoxia, when, in fact, infection plays a larger role.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Google:</strong> Infection, Not Lack Of Oxygen, Plays Larger Role In Premature Infant Brain Injury<br />
People who don&#8217;t take germs seriously are so 20th century.  😎</p>
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