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	Comments on: Tennesee church shooter needed help but didn&#039;t get it	</title>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Zoe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Zoe.</p>
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		By: Zoe Brain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoe Brain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Seriously, no, I wouldn’t. I will grant you though that others would. But no, I wouldn’t because of my mental health training and perspective I think.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Funnily enough.. I believe you. Actually, it never occurred to me that you would.
Integrity is rare, but I can recognise it 9 times out of 10 when I see it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Seriously, no, I wouldn’t. I will grant you though that others would. But no, I wouldn’t because of my mental health training and perspective I think.</p></blockquote>
<p>Funnily enough.. I believe you. Actually, it never occurred to me that you would.<br />
Integrity is rare, but I can recognise it 9 times out of 10 when I see it.</p>
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		By: jayhuck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jayhuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mein Kampf? - I don&#039;t know - I would hate to speculate about that.  I&#039;m simply talking about people who scream and rail against the evils of liberalism  - which is as hard a word to define as conservatism - who make all manner of claims regarding liberals and then never have to take responsibility for their words.  Words are obviously very powerful things.  Does the left have people who do the same sorts of things - yes, they do, but right off the top of my head I can&#039;t think of many who get as much air time or operate under a purportedly fair and balanced banner as Sean and Bill.
However, I think I&#039;m turning this discussion into something that it was not meant to be - Its not, in the end, really about Bill, Sean, Ann Coulter,  Moveon.org or the rest of their unbalanced ilk, it is about a mentally unstable man who needs help - who NEEDED help.  None of the pundits above were responsible for this man&#039;s instability - I should probably make that very clear - and Warren is absolutely correct when he says:
&quot;if there is anything to be learned it is that we have not figured out how to deal with chronic and severe delusional illness. To me it does not help to align these actions with either liberal or conservative ideologies.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mein Kampf? &#8211; I don&#8217;t know &#8211; I would hate to speculate about that.  I&#8217;m simply talking about people who scream and rail against the evils of liberalism  &#8211; which is as hard a word to define as conservatism &#8211; who make all manner of claims regarding liberals and then never have to take responsibility for their words.  Words are obviously very powerful things.  Does the left have people who do the same sorts of things &#8211; yes, they do, but right off the top of my head I can&#8217;t think of many who get as much air time or operate under a purportedly fair and balanced banner as Sean and Bill.<br />
However, I think I&#8217;m turning this discussion into something that it was not meant to be &#8211; Its not, in the end, really about Bill, Sean, Ann Coulter,  Moveon.org or the rest of their unbalanced ilk, it is about a mentally unstable man who needs help &#8211; who NEEDED help.  None of the pundits above were responsible for this man&#8217;s instability &#8211; I should probably make that very clear &#8211; and Warren is absolutely correct when he says:<br />
&#8220;if there is anything to be learned it is that we have not figured out how to deal with chronic and severe delusional illness. To me it does not help to align these actions with either liberal or conservative ideologies.&#8221;</p>
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		By: NickC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NickC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Imagine the following scenario:
The shooting is in an evangelical church that hosts an ex-gay ministry and preaches against gay marriage, etc.
The shooter is a gay man.
He has made previous statements to a neighbor that he didn&#039;t like religion because the Bible was full of contradictions.
He leaves irrational notes full of anger against fundamentalists and opponents of gay rights.
He has a copy of Wayne Besen&#039;s &quot;Bashing Back&quot; in his apartment.
Warren, don&#039;t you think your comments would have a different tone?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine the following scenario:<br />
The shooting is in an evangelical church that hosts an ex-gay ministry and preaches against gay marriage, etc.<br />
The shooter is a gay man.<br />
He has made previous statements to a neighbor that he didn&#8217;t like religion because the Bible was full of contradictions.<br />
He leaves irrational notes full of anger against fundamentalists and opponents of gay rights.<br />
He has a copy of Wayne Besen&#8217;s &#8220;Bashing Back&#8221; in his apartment.<br />
Warren, don&#8217;t you think your comments would have a different tone?</p>
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		By: Evan		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/07/28/tennesee-church-shooter-needed-help-but-didnt-get-it/#comment-18591</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jayhuck,
If he read Mein Kampf events would have turned out even worse?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jayhuck,<br />
If he read Mein Kampf events would have turned out even worse?</p>
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