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		By: Ann		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/07/17/exodus-international-open-forum/#comment-18413</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 04:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The side blog that Justin created was active for a few days but I’ve checked in occasionally and the conversation came to a halt weeks ago.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Eddy,
Thank you so much for reminding me about Justin&#039;s blog - I hope it continues.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The side blog that Justin created was active for a few days but I’ve checked in occasionally and the conversation came to a halt weeks ago.</p></blockquote>
<p>Eddy,<br />
Thank you so much for reminding me about Justin&#8217;s blog &#8211; I hope it continues.</p>
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		By: Eddy		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/07/17/exodus-international-open-forum/#comment-18412</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 01:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ron-
Didn&#039;t mean  to ignore the fact that you had dropped in. I was actually waiting for Michael to respond to you. I did note that he was commenting on some other topics but then most of the topic threads went to the political race and a number of us regulars got a bit scarce.
It was good to hear from you. I&#039;m in regular e-mail contact with Robbi K., Lori T. (now Lori R.) and Doug H. Since Warren&#039;s blog pulled me &#039;sort of&#039; out of retirement, I&#039;ve also had a few email chats with Alan Chambers and Dan P. (current director of Outpost).
I&#039;m trusting all is well with you...and hope that you &#039;subscribed&#039; to this topic so that you&#039;ll get my greetings.
The side blog that Justin created was active for a few days but I&#039;ve checked in occasionally and the conversation came to a halt weeks ago.
If we survive Campaign &#039;08, check back in and search either &#039;ex-gay&#039; or &#039;Exodus&#039;, it&#039;s likely you&#039;ll find us commenting there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron-<br />
Didn&#8217;t mean  to ignore the fact that you had dropped in. I was actually waiting for Michael to respond to you. I did note that he was commenting on some other topics but then most of the topic threads went to the political race and a number of us regulars got a bit scarce.<br />
It was good to hear from you. I&#8217;m in regular e-mail contact with Robbi K., Lori T. (now Lori R.) and Doug H. Since Warren&#8217;s blog pulled me &#8216;sort of&#8217; out of retirement, I&#8217;ve also had a few email chats with Alan Chambers and Dan P. (current director of Outpost).<br />
I&#8217;m trusting all is well with you&#8230;and hope that you &#8216;subscribed&#8217; to this topic so that you&#8217;ll get my greetings.<br />
The side blog that Justin created was active for a few days but I&#8217;ve checked in occasionally and the conversation came to a halt weeks ago.<br />
If we survive Campaign &#8217;08, check back in and search either &#8216;ex-gay&#8217; or &#8216;Exodus&#8217;, it&#8217;s likely you&#8217;ll find us commenting there.</p>
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		By: Ron Dennis		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/07/17/exodus-international-open-forum/#comment-18411</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Gang,
After hearing that I was being “beaten up”on the Exodus International Forum, I reluctantly and hesitantly went there to see what was going on. I’ve been &lt;em&gt;interneting&lt;/em&gt; since the 80’s, and the few forums or’blogs’ I ever went to (gay or Christian) started out good, but always degenerated to *&#038;#@* and name calling. It’s refreshing to hear civil dialog from both sides.
I’m going to try to keep this short for now. Lots more to read. It’s great to hear from some “old timers” from the original Exodus Board. Hi Robbi, and Mike. Hi Ed, Justin, et al.. Been in touch with Frank, Doug and Greg a few times over the years.*   Once with Jim K (years ago). He requested his name be withheld and I’ve honored that request. Did some ministry together with Perry Desmond in California a few years before he died. I still have a few copies of his book, “Perry.” What ever happened to Sharon Kuhn. I remember she married. I still have a copy of her little red booklet, “Misconceptions of Homosexuality.”
*note: all the original Exodus Board did not “go back into the gay lifestyle” – as posted elsewhere.
BTW Mike
I think you have me mixed up with someone else. My testimony speaks of being beaten up and left for dead in a robbery at my home several years before my conversion to Christ at MCC in 1973. Haven’t hit (cruised) the bars since. There was a Brother at Oakland Exodus who believed God was calling him to go into gay bars to minister, could have been him.
Most of my dialog with you and/or Jim was weeks before the first gathering at Melodyland that you both thankfully pulled together (1976?). A friend from church in Las Vegas had visited Melodyland (his wife sang there one weekend). He brought me a bulletin mentioning an informal gathering for people in ex-gay ministry. He knew my story, and that I had started Theophilus Ministries here in Nevada (NV), which still goes on. He thought maybe I ought to go. I thought we were the only ministry of its kind.
I called EXIT and wanted to come. Response was, “No, it’s a closed meeting.” I called a week later, response was about the same but “we’ll see.” I called a third time, the day before and said, “I’m coming,” and the rest in history.
memories Mike - A long time ago, several of us were concerned when you took your path away from Exodus and family. We located and visited you. We were invited in to your place and met your friend. I believe that was Gary.
All for the moment, will be back soon.
With love in Christ,
Ron
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gang,<br />
After hearing that I was being “beaten up”on the Exodus International Forum, I reluctantly and hesitantly went there to see what was going on. I’ve been <em>interneting</em> since the 80’s, and the few forums or’blogs’ I ever went to (gay or Christian) started out good, but always degenerated to *&amp;#@* and name calling. It’s refreshing to hear civil dialog from both sides.<br />
I’m going to try to keep this short for now. Lots more to read. It’s great to hear from some “old timers” from the original Exodus Board. Hi Robbi, and Mike. Hi Ed, Justin, et al.. Been in touch with Frank, Doug and Greg a few times over the years.*   Once with Jim K (years ago). He requested his name be withheld and I’ve honored that request. Did some ministry together with Perry Desmond in California a few years before he died. I still have a few copies of his book, “Perry.” What ever happened to Sharon Kuhn. I remember she married. I still have a copy of her little red booklet, “Misconceptions of Homosexuality.”<br />
*note: all the original Exodus Board did not “go back into the gay lifestyle” – as posted elsewhere.<br />
BTW Mike<br />
I think you have me mixed up with someone else. My testimony speaks of being beaten up and left for dead in a robbery at my home several years before my conversion to Christ at MCC in 1973. Haven’t hit (cruised) the bars since. There was a Brother at Oakland Exodus who believed God was calling him to go into gay bars to minister, could have been him.<br />
Most of my dialog with you and/or Jim was weeks before the first gathering at Melodyland that you both thankfully pulled together (1976?). A friend from church in Las Vegas had visited Melodyland (his wife sang there one weekend). He brought me a bulletin mentioning an informal gathering for people in ex-gay ministry. He knew my story, and that I had started Theophilus Ministries here in Nevada (NV), which still goes on. He thought maybe I ought to go. I thought we were the only ministry of its kind.<br />
I called EXIT and wanted to come. Response was, “No, it’s a closed meeting.” I called a week later, response was about the same but “we’ll see.” I called a third time, the day before and said, “I’m coming,” and the rest in history.<br />
memories Mike &#8211; A long time ago, several of us were concerned when you took your path away from Exodus and family. We located and visited you. We were invited in to your place and met your friend. I believe that was Gary.<br />
All for the moment, will be back soon.<br />
With love in Christ,<br />
Ron<br />
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		By: Eddy		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/07/17/exodus-international-open-forum/#comment-18410</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Veni...Vidi...Voci. (I came...I saw...I spoke....made that last one up.)
This is just my way of letting the others on the blog know that a conversation has begun on Justin&#039;s links. ( see post: 126159) There&#039;s more on the second than the first but that&#039;s to be expected. Hope you&#039;ll drop in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veni&#8230;Vidi&#8230;Voci. (I came&#8230;I saw&#8230;I spoke&#8230;.made that last one up.)<br />
This is just my way of letting the others on the blog know that a conversation has begun on Justin&#8217;s links. ( see post: 126159) There&#8217;s more on the second than the first but that&#8217;s to be expected. Hope you&#8217;ll drop in.</p>
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		By: Eddy		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/07/17/exodus-international-open-forum/#comment-18409</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Justin--
We&#039;ve suddenly got plenty to get started with. Let&#039;s see who drops in. I really am in a bit of a time crunch...just got back from vacation and doing errands,etc...so will check back in either tomorrow before karaoke or on Saturday.
You went to a lot of work and were unbelievably thoughtful. I sure hope the others were subscribed and will come and join. Talk to you later. Dinner is calling.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin&#8211;<br />
We&#8217;ve suddenly got plenty to get started with. Let&#8217;s see who drops in. I really am in a bit of a time crunch&#8230;just got back from vacation and doing errands,etc&#8230;so will check back in either tomorrow before karaoke or on Saturday.<br />
You went to a lot of work and were unbelievably thoughtful. I sure hope the others were subscribed and will come and join. Talk to you later. Dinner is calling.</p>
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