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	Comments on: Obama says faith-based is okay if it isn&#039;t entirely based in faith	</title>
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		By: Nick R		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 20:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Warren,
Why should my taxes be used to discriminate against me?
Thank you for explaining.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren,<br />
Why should my taxes be used to discriminate against me?<br />
Thank you for explaining.</p>
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		By: Norm!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norm!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sen. Obama&#039;s proposal makes sense to me.  Taxpayer money should not go to organizations with discriminatory hiring practices or to covertly supplement religious leaders&#039; income (i.e. requiring taxpayer-funded ministries&#039; managers to be clergy).
That said, I think this issue could be a major blunder for Obama.  This issue could give McCain an opportunity to connect with evangelical/fundamentalists.  McSame seems to support Bush Jr.&#039;s  view that religious fundamentalists should have the right to use taxpayer funds to discriminate against non-believing employees.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sen. Obama&#8217;s proposal makes sense to me.  Taxpayer money should not go to organizations with discriminatory hiring practices or to covertly supplement religious leaders&#8217; income (i.e. requiring taxpayer-funded ministries&#8217; managers to be clergy).<br />
That said, I think this issue could be a major blunder for Obama.  This issue could give McCain an opportunity to connect with evangelical/fundamentalists.  McSame seems to support Bush Jr.&#8217;s  view that religious fundamentalists should have the right to use taxpayer funds to discriminate against non-believing employees.</p>
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		By: Scott		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the NYT article cited:
&lt;blockquote&gt;“If you get a federal grant, you can’t use that grant money to proselytize to the people you help and you can’t discriminate against them — or against the people you hire — on the basis of their religion,” Mr. Obama said. “Federal dollars that go directly to churches, temples and mosques can only be used on secular programs.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yeah, I think you have got the basic message right. This is a much better application of faith based initiatives than Bush II. On the governmental side there should be a separation of church and state (by design, from our founding documents). On the church side there is an incentive to maintain the division between a federally funded program and church function because there should be no compromising the message of faith.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the NYT article cited:</p>
<blockquote><p>“If you get a federal grant, you can’t use that grant money to proselytize to the people you help and you can’t discriminate against them — or against the people you hire — on the basis of their religion,” Mr. Obama said. “Federal dollars that go directly to churches, temples and mosques can only be used on secular programs.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, I think you have got the basic message right. This is a much better application of faith based initiatives than Bush II. On the governmental side there should be a separation of church and state (by design, from our founding documents). On the church side there is an incentive to maintain the division between a federally funded program and church function because there should be no compromising the message of faith.</p>
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