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	Comments on: Counselorlicense.com &#8211; Caveat emptor.	</title>
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		By: Vicki		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/06/03/counselorlicensecom-caveat-emptor/#comment-17331</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[counselorlicesnse.com is no longer a functioning webdsite.  There are two pages, but it is no longer offering the course.  Looks like one of those investigatng bodiies was able to shut it down!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>counselorlicesnse.com is no longer a functioning webdsite.  There are two pages, but it is no longer offering the course.  Looks like one of those investigatng bodiies was able to shut it down!</p>
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		By: Tbrown		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/06/03/counselorlicensecom-caveat-emptor/#comment-17330</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr.Halstead also runs :
morebans.org
homeffl.com
guncollectorLicense.com
becomeagunsmith.com
certifiedreloader.com
and im sure others.
same deal , offers some sort of certification by phoenix state university
btw, since when is phoenix is a state?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr.Halstead also runs :<br />
morebans.org<br />
homeffl.com<br />
guncollectorLicense.com<br />
becomeagunsmith.com<br />
certifiedreloader.com<br />
and im sure others.<br />
same deal , offers some sort of certification by phoenix state university<br />
btw, since when is phoenix is a state?</p>
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		By: Rich Brockway		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/06/03/counselorlicensecom-caveat-emptor/#comment-17329</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich Brockway]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the author is missing the differentiation between the professions. A “Licensed Counselor” is one who has met licensing criteria for a given state. A Pastoral Counselor is one who is ordained by a religious organization.
These are two different professions. It is like comparing a Doctor to a Nurse. They both can perform similar duties. They each have different boundaries. In my humble opinion, a “Licensed Counselor” or Psychologists are not the “Gold Standard.” All counselors or psychologists pretty much have the same boundaries. That is why there are Psychiatrists.
One could argue which is “better” until the cows come home. The truth is just because someone has a degree and met criteria for licensing by the the state does not mean they are good and helpful counselors.
I have personally seen these licensed counselors press their personal agenda on people. Couples go in for counseling and are told divorce is their “best” option. There was no talk of working on the marriage. I guess that counselor was absent when they  talked about the damage divorce can do to one&#039;s mental and emotional health.
I looked into this with my state. I found it is totally true. One can indeed become a Pastoral Counselor  the way Phoenix State claims you can. All you need to do with the state is register as a Pastoral Counselor. This is simply so they know you are performing in this role and they can address any complaints filed against you. Then, you are in business.  I would contact your state agency that licenses counselors to verify what Phoenix State asserts is true.
Wishing you all the best!
Rich]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the author is missing the differentiation between the professions. A “Licensed Counselor” is one who has met licensing criteria for a given state. A Pastoral Counselor is one who is ordained by a religious organization.<br />
These are two different professions. It is like comparing a Doctor to a Nurse. They both can perform similar duties. They each have different boundaries. In my humble opinion, a “Licensed Counselor” or Psychologists are not the “Gold Standard.” All counselors or psychologists pretty much have the same boundaries. That is why there are Psychiatrists.<br />
One could argue which is “better” until the cows come home. The truth is just because someone has a degree and met criteria for licensing by the the state does not mean they are good and helpful counselors.<br />
I have personally seen these licensed counselors press their personal agenda on people. Couples go in for counseling and are told divorce is their “best” option. There was no talk of working on the marriage. I guess that counselor was absent when they  talked about the damage divorce can do to one&#8217;s mental and emotional health.<br />
I looked into this with my state. I found it is totally true. One can indeed become a Pastoral Counselor  the way Phoenix State claims you can. All you need to do with the state is register as a Pastoral Counselor. This is simply so they know you are performing in this role and they can address any complaints filed against you. Then, you are in business.  I would contact your state agency that licenses counselors to verify what Phoenix State asserts is true.<br />
Wishing you all the best!<br />
Rich</p>
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		By: Wanda Siekkinen		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/06/03/counselorlicensecom-caveat-emptor/#comment-17328</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wanda Siekkinen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 02:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would like to know if people really can do pastoral counseling and charge for it in any state? If they advertise as a CPC and only accept cash/checks is that legit?
I am confused!
Wanda]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to know if people really can do pastoral counseling and charge for it in any state? If they advertise as a CPC and only accept cash/checks is that legit?<br />
I am confused!<br />
Wanda</p>
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		By: Wannita Knox		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wannita Knox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A friend of mine just sent this to me.  I am 57 years old and I would love to be able to work like this website says you can.  My goodness, I could print out a nice certificate and put an ad in the local paper, couldn&#039;t I?  Or, anyone else for that matter?  I am currently studying psychology at Ashford Online University and will have my degree in October.  Well, now of course I have discovered that I need a Masters to do anything with the BA - if I want to do any type of counseling.  I had mentioned that last year I had pulled up a few websites offering a Certificat in Pastoral Counseling.  They all seemed to run around $200.  I bought into one and never heard from them again.  My son was in jail for a few months and I sent it to him to read.  Guess I got my money&#039;s worth!!?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine just sent this to me.  I am 57 years old and I would love to be able to work like this website says you can.  My goodness, I could print out a nice certificate and put an ad in the local paper, couldn&#8217;t I?  Or, anyone else for that matter?  I am currently studying psychology at Ashford Online University and will have my degree in October.  Well, now of course I have discovered that I need a Masters to do anything with the BA &#8211; if I want to do any type of counseling.  I had mentioned that last year I had pulled up a few websites offering a Certificat in Pastoral Counseling.  They all seemed to run around $200.  I bought into one and never heard from them again.  My son was in jail for a few months and I sent it to him to read.  Guess I got my money&#8217;s worth!!?</p>
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