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	Comments on: Gay City News prints letter clarifying sexual identity therapy	</title>
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		By: jayhuck		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/05/23/gay-city-news-prints-letter-clarifying-sexual-identity-therapy/#comment-17297</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jayhuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oooops - by Evan, I meant Eddy :P]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooops &#8211; by Evan, I meant Eddy 😛</p>
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		By: jayhuck		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/05/23/gay-city-news-prints-letter-clarifying-sexual-identity-therapy/#comment-17296</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jayhuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Evan,
Not to be too intrusive, but it would be incredibly easy to create an email address with which to converse with Michael - one that you could get rid of immediately after your conversation - all without ever divulging any of your private information - FYI :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan,<br />
Not to be too intrusive, but it would be incredibly easy to create an email address with which to converse with Michael &#8211; one that you could get rid of immediately after your conversation &#8211; all without ever divulging any of your private information &#8211; FYI 🙂</p>
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		By: Eddy		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/05/23/gay-city-news-prints-letter-clarifying-sexual-identity-therapy/#comment-17295</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Michael: You have suggested several times over the course of our mutual blogging here that we start conversing offline. I&#039;ve declined politely each time. I intend to be polite again but I guess I can&#039;t escape telling you the balance of my reasoning...I am very protective of my email address and am extremely careful about who I share it with. On one level, I trust you but on others, I don&#039;t. We have that one issue where I used the word &#039;provocative&#039; in one sense and you continued to quote it without giving its original context even after I asked you not to and explained my reasoning. I shudder to think what you could do with an offhand comment I might make.
Already, on the blog, I feel the pressure of having to word and say everything &#039;just so&#039;. I accept that as part of the burden of blogging. But, I&#039;m simply not ready to open myself up to exchanging so-called &#039;friendly&#039; emails...knowing full well that these topics are the only thing we have in common...and then essentially having to monitor my phrasings so as not to provide a sound bite.
Beyond that, you can be a bit relentless. When something has your full attention, you seem to feel that everyone else should think and feel as you do...and you hammer. I have visions of logging in to my email and seeing a dozen or more messages. &quot;Well, what do you think? Is that what you believe? So and so said thus and such, what&#039;s your response?&quot;
LOL! I know! I can be relentless too! And there are people who wouldn&#039;t care for &lt;em&gt;me&lt;/em&gt; to have their personal email address. I understand that. I hope you do too. (Our mutual friend, Robbi, has been after me for several years to make a trip out to California. I told her that when I do finally make it, I&#039;d like to rendezvous with you if at all possible. At the moment, it&#039;s the best I can offer.)
(Thanks, Ann, for your kind comments. Only time will tell. I&#039;m delaying buying a new pc because 1) I want to avoid Windows Vista 2) I want to re-priortize my computer use. LOL. If I bought a new pc tomorrow, I&#039;m sure I&#039;d be back to blogging by Sunday. Not over the blog addiction yet.)
Time to head out. I&#039;ve been invited to sing karaoke at the birthday of a lesbian friend of mine...I thought they said it was her wedding so I was practicing &#039;non gender specific&#039; love songs all week...now I find out it&#039;s a milestone birthday so I need to tweak the mix a bit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael: You have suggested several times over the course of our mutual blogging here that we start conversing offline. I&#8217;ve declined politely each time. I intend to be polite again but I guess I can&#8217;t escape telling you the balance of my reasoning&#8230;I am very protective of my email address and am extremely careful about who I share it with. On one level, I trust you but on others, I don&#8217;t. We have that one issue where I used the word &#8216;provocative&#8217; in one sense and you continued to quote it without giving its original context even after I asked you not to and explained my reasoning. I shudder to think what you could do with an offhand comment I might make.<br />
Already, on the blog, I feel the pressure of having to word and say everything &#8216;just so&#8217;. I accept that as part of the burden of blogging. But, I&#8217;m simply not ready to open myself up to exchanging so-called &#8216;friendly&#8217; emails&#8230;knowing full well that these topics are the only thing we have in common&#8230;and then essentially having to monitor my phrasings so as not to provide a sound bite.<br />
Beyond that, you can be a bit relentless. When something has your full attention, you seem to feel that everyone else should think and feel as you do&#8230;and you hammer. I have visions of logging in to my email and seeing a dozen or more messages. &#8220;Well, what do you think? Is that what you believe? So and so said thus and such, what&#8217;s your response?&#8221;<br />
LOL! I know! I can be relentless too! And there are people who wouldn&#8217;t care for <em>me</em> to have their personal email address. I understand that. I hope you do too. (Our mutual friend, Robbi, has been after me for several years to make a trip out to California. I told her that when I do finally make it, I&#8217;d like to rendezvous with you if at all possible. At the moment, it&#8217;s the best I can offer.)<br />
(Thanks, Ann, for your kind comments. Only time will tell. I&#8217;m delaying buying a new pc because 1) I want to avoid Windows Vista 2) I want to re-priortize my computer use. LOL. If I bought a new pc tomorrow, I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;d be back to blogging by Sunday. Not over the blog addiction yet.)<br />
Time to head out. I&#8217;ve been invited to sing karaoke at the birthday of a lesbian friend of mine&#8230;I thought they said it was her wedding so I was practicing &#8216;non gender specific&#8217; love songs all week&#8230;now I find out it&#8217;s a milestone birthday so I need to tweak the mix a bit.</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/05/23/gay-city-news-prints-letter-clarifying-sexual-identity-therapy/#comment-17294</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eddy:  Still don&#039;t get why you couldn&#039;t shoot me a friendly email -- on occasion.  Maybe we could calm some of the contentious rhetoric..  Oh, well.  About me always blaming the church for the pressures gays feel, I do not blame only the church or even mainly the church -- but their influence has been huge.  I know you don&#039;t have to believe in God to be a homophobe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddy:  Still don&#8217;t get why you couldn&#8217;t shoot me a friendly email &#8212; on occasion.  Maybe we could calm some of the contentious rhetoric..  Oh, well.  About me always blaming the church for the pressures gays feel, I do not blame only the church or even mainly the church &#8212; but their influence has been huge.  I know you don&#8217;t have to believe in God to be a homophobe.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/05/23/gay-city-news-prints-letter-clarifying-sexual-identity-therapy/#comment-17293</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eddy,
I hope your &quot;occassional&quot; posts will come often - please don&#039;t stay away too long.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddy,<br />
I hope your &#8220;occassional&#8221; posts will come often &#8211; please don&#8217;t stay away too long.</p>
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		By: eddy		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/05/23/gay-city-news-prints-letter-clarifying-sexual-identity-therapy/#comment-17292</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Michael--
Please understand that I need to decline your offer of the off blog one-to-one. I began seriously re-evaluating my time spent blogging and/or focussed on these issues several months ago...I got some serious help cutting back even further when my personal hard drive died.  Cutting back appears to be the right direction for me. Even here on Warren&#039;s blog, I&#039;ve refrained from jumping in on new topics and am only sticking around to respond to topics I was once a part of.
I&#039;m not saying I&#039;m thoroughly done but, at the least, I&#039;ve shifted from &#039;regular&#039; to &#039;occasional&#039;...and I suspect I&#039;ll continue to visit with a comment now and again. Or Warren will come up with some provocative topic that I just can&#039;t resist.....
BTW: The way you phrased your statement where you employed the 1-2-3-4, it wouldn&#039;t have needed the disclaimers. I&#039;ll say it one more time: it&#039;s opinions that are stated as facts that usually get a rise out of me. An opinion can be extreme and outlandish for all I care....as long as it isn&#039;t presented as an established fact.(Your statements weren&#039;t extreme, outlandish or presented as fact.)
I&#039;m an equal-opportunity confronter, BTW. I confront people on &#039;my side&#039; who make outlandish claims such as: it&#039;s a demon, homosexuals are abominations, homosexuals are child molestors, homosexuality is the worst sin. Even if they say something I happen to agree with, I challenge if it&#039;s presented as fact when I haven&#039;t yet heard of any research or proof. (I &lt;strong&gt;do not&lt;/strong&gt; agree with any of the &#039;outlandish claims&#039; above. I do tend to believe that there is a &#039;gay political agenda&#039; that is in direct conflict with the church at large. But it&#039;s an opinion. We can&#039;t yet make any solid conclusion. So I&#039;d challenge a person who tried to say, without question, that there was a &#039;gay agenda&#039;. More than once I&#039;ve had to say &quot;Oh, I agree with you but I just didn&#039;t know that that&#039;s been proven yet. When did our opinion reach &#039;fact status&#039;?&quot;
Well, my library allotted time for the computer is all gone for today. Peace, all. Will likely check in again by the end of the week.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael&#8211;<br />
Please understand that I need to decline your offer of the off blog one-to-one. I began seriously re-evaluating my time spent blogging and/or focussed on these issues several months ago&#8230;I got some serious help cutting back even further when my personal hard drive died.  Cutting back appears to be the right direction for me. Even here on Warren&#8217;s blog, I&#8217;ve refrained from jumping in on new topics and am only sticking around to respond to topics I was once a part of.<br />
I&#8217;m not saying I&#8217;m thoroughly done but, at the least, I&#8217;ve shifted from &#8216;regular&#8217; to &#8216;occasional&#8217;&#8230;and I suspect I&#8217;ll continue to visit with a comment now and again. Or Warren will come up with some provocative topic that I just can&#8217;t resist&#8230;..<br />
BTW: The way you phrased your statement where you employed the 1-2-3-4, it wouldn&#8217;t have needed the disclaimers. I&#8217;ll say it one more time: it&#8217;s opinions that are stated as facts that usually get a rise out of me. An opinion can be extreme and outlandish for all I care&#8230;.as long as it isn&#8217;t presented as an established fact.(Your statements weren&#8217;t extreme, outlandish or presented as fact.)<br />
I&#8217;m an equal-opportunity confronter, BTW. I confront people on &#8216;my side&#8217; who make outlandish claims such as: it&#8217;s a demon, homosexuals are abominations, homosexuals are child molestors, homosexuality is the worst sin. Even if they say something I happen to agree with, I challenge if it&#8217;s presented as fact when I haven&#8217;t yet heard of any research or proof. (I <strong>do not</strong> agree with any of the &#8216;outlandish claims&#8217; above. I do tend to believe that there is a &#8216;gay political agenda&#8217; that is in direct conflict with the church at large. But it&#8217;s an opinion. We can&#8217;t yet make any solid conclusion. So I&#8217;d challenge a person who tried to say, without question, that there was a &#8216;gay agenda&#8217;. More than once I&#8217;ve had to say &#8220;Oh, I agree with you but I just didn&#8217;t know that that&#8217;s been proven yet. When did our opinion reach &#8216;fact status&#8217;?&#8221;<br />
Well, my library allotted time for the computer is all gone for today. Peace, all. Will likely check in again by the end of the week.</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/05/23/gay-city-news-prints-letter-clarifying-sexual-identity-therapy/#comment-17291</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eddy:  Before Warren puts this thread (mercifully) to rest, I would like to invite you to dialog one-on-one, off the blogs, to see if we might establish some common ground.  Give it some thought:  michaelbussee@netzero.net]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddy:  Before Warren puts this thread (mercifully) to rest, I would like to invite you to dialog one-on-one, off the blogs, to see if we might establish some common ground.  Give it some thought:  <a href="mailto:michaelbussee@netzero.net">michaelbussee@netzero.net</a></p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;I’ve been feeling that in the three threads in which I’ve been posting - LOL - and you know, I’d have to agree with him.&lt;/em&gt;
Well, certainly my one liners and smiley faces would have nothing to do with his decision that nothing more of substance is being contributed and therefore the thread has run it&#039;s course  :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I’ve been feeling that in the three threads in which I’ve been posting &#8211; LOL &#8211; and you know, I’d have to agree with him.</em><br />
Well, certainly my one liners and smiley faces would have nothing to do with his decision that nothing more of substance is being contributed and therefore the thread has run it&#8217;s course  🙂</p>
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		By: jayhuck		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/05/23/gay-city-news-prints-letter-clarifying-sexual-identity-therapy/#comment-17289</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jayhuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been feeling that in the three threads in which I&#039;ve been posting - LOL - and you know, I&#039;d have to agree with him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been feeling that in the three threads in which I&#8217;ve been posting &#8211; LOL &#8211; and you know, I&#8217;d have to agree with him.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Just have to add that to the list of things I need to work on this year&lt;/em&gt;
Jayhuck,
Bet my list is longer than your&#039;s :-)
I feel ANY moment Dr. Throckmorton is going to come in and say that this thread has run it&#039;s course and if no one has anything substantial to say, he is going to close it down  :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Just have to add that to the list of things I need to work on this year</em><br />
Jayhuck,<br />
Bet my list is longer than your&#8217;s 🙂<br />
I feel ANY moment Dr. Throckmorton is going to come in and say that this thread has run it&#8217;s course and if no one has anything substantial to say, he is going to close it down  🙂</p>
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