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	Comments on: 60 Minutes Science of Sexual Orientation: An update from the mother of twins	</title>
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		By: Fg68at		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 05:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Two years since. It would be nice to have an update information. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two years since. It would be nice to have an update information. 🙂</p>
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		By: Eddy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 22:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My bad! I&#039;ve been weaning myself away from my addiction to this site and I should have let the overgeneralized statement stand unchallenged. I will refrain from responding to the replies to my post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My bad! I&#8217;ve been weaning myself away from my addiction to this site and I should have let the overgeneralized statement stand unchallenged. I will refrain from responding to the replies to my post.</p>
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		By: Jayhuck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jayhuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 01:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We might have exhausted the topic?]]></description>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 01:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The thread is drifting. Could we get it back to the mom of these twins or have we exhausted that topic?
I am still trying to find time put her follow up remarks together....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thread is drifting. Could we get it back to the mom of these twins or have we exhausted that topic?<br />
I am still trying to find time put her follow up remarks together&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Pathia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pathia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 00:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;
Pathia I wonder if they were really Christians though - or if they just co-opted anti-gay religious language. &lt;/em&gt;
Considering two of the assaults were done by people I knew from highschool, and knew decently well because we were in classes together.  I &#039;m pretty sure they went to church.  Good ole&#039; southern baptists.  Funnily enough the police that were about that laughed at me and called me a bitchy queen that got what she deserved.   They wouldn&#039;t charge the assaulter with anything, though they threatened to arrest me for disturbing the peace, because needless to say I was a bit hysterical at that point.  They ALL went to the same church.  Fancy that!
Gotta love the good old boy networks in the south, hmm?
Now, did they read the bible much?  Probably not, but I bet they were &#039;told what it said&#039; often enough.
They didn&#039;t just hate gay people either, mind.  The local country club forbid black and hispanic members, no matter their income.]]></description>
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Pathia I wonder if they were really Christians though &#8211; or if they just co-opted anti-gay religious language. </em><br />
Considering two of the assaults were done by people I knew from highschool, and knew decently well because we were in classes together.  I &#8216;m pretty sure they went to church.  Good ole&#8217; southern baptists.  Funnily enough the police that were about that laughed at me and called me a bitchy queen that got what she deserved.   They wouldn&#8217;t charge the assaulter with anything, though they threatened to arrest me for disturbing the peace, because needless to say I was a bit hysterical at that point.  They ALL went to the same church.  Fancy that!<br />
Gotta love the good old boy networks in the south, hmm?<br />
Now, did they read the bible much?  Probably not, but I bet they were &#8216;told what it said&#8217; often enough.<br />
They didn&#8217;t just hate gay people either, mind.  The local country club forbid black and hispanic members, no matter their income.</p>
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		By: Jayhuck		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 00:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with you Patrick.
I also don&#039;t want to make it sound like ALL conservative Christians are hateful, hate-spreading people.  I don&#039;t believe that.  I think that conservative Christians often have good intentions, but don&#039;t realize the consequences of their words and actions - especially when they aren&#039;t backed up with some clarification.
I also agree that there are people who CLAIM to be Christians - who have a Christian veneer like you said - who abuse and discriminate against gay people.
It is a bit more complicated than I made out in my earlier post - and I do think conservative Christians are doing a much better job of explaining their positions - but when you&#039;ve got a group of people saying that gays don&#039;t deserve equal rights, that sends a message to people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Patrick.<br />
I also don&#8217;t want to make it sound like ALL conservative Christians are hateful, hate-spreading people.  I don&#8217;t believe that.  I think that conservative Christians often have good intentions, but don&#8217;t realize the consequences of their words and actions &#8211; especially when they aren&#8217;t backed up with some clarification.<br />
I also agree that there are people who CLAIM to be Christians &#8211; who have a Christian veneer like you said &#8211; who abuse and discriminate against gay people.<br />
It is a bit more complicated than I made out in my earlier post &#8211; and I do think conservative Christians are doing a much better job of explaining their positions &#8211; but when you&#8217;ve got a group of people saying that gays don&#8217;t deserve equal rights, that sends a message to people.</p>
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		By: Patrick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 23:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pathia I wonder if they were really Christians though - or if they just co-opted anti-gay religious language.
I have noticed that people who aren&#039;t seemly Christian in anyway (don&#039;t go to church, don&#039;t read the bible, don&#039;t act out their faith etc) will sometimes state that they are against homosexuality because the &#039;bible says so&#039;.  It is almost like they want to add a veneer of &#039;respectability&#039; to their beliefs by using religious language - when what they really might feel is just negatively about homosexuals.  Not of chose that there is *anytthing* respectable about attacking another person.
As for atheists, well I am sure there are some who feel negatively towards glbt persons.  But secular humanists (which a fair number of atheists are) are probably one of the biggest pro-glbt groups out there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pathia I wonder if they were really Christians though &#8211; or if they just co-opted anti-gay religious language.<br />
I have noticed that people who aren&#8217;t seemly Christian in anyway (don&#8217;t go to church, don&#8217;t read the bible, don&#8217;t act out their faith etc) will sometimes state that they are against homosexuality because the &#8216;bible says so&#8217;.  It is almost like they want to add a veneer of &#8216;respectability&#8217; to their beliefs by using religious language &#8211; when what they really might feel is just negatively about homosexuals.  Not of chose that there is *anytthing* respectable about attacking another person.<br />
As for atheists, well I am sure there are some who feel negatively towards glbt persons.  But secular humanists (which a fair number of atheists are) are probably one of the biggest pro-glbt groups out there.</p>
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		By: jayhuck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jayhuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 23:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Its sad, but I don&#039;t know any atheists that hate or discriminate against gay people either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its sad, but I don&#8217;t know any atheists that hate or discriminate against gay people either.</p>
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		By: jayhuck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jayhuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 23:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eddy,
Where do you think people learned that GAY is bad - or rather, SINFUL?  I&#039;ve seen it in action my whole life Eddy - kinda hard to provide documentation for something like that.  Conservative Christianity is what gives out the message to people that being gay is wrong and sinful.  I&#039;m not saying they are the ONLY cause of bigotry and prejudice that the gay community faces, but they either provide ammunition without clarification, or directly participate in discriminating against the gay community.  I grew up in a very conservative Christian community, and state for that matter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddy,<br />
Where do you think people learned that GAY is bad &#8211; or rather, SINFUL?  I&#8217;ve seen it in action my whole life Eddy &#8211; kinda hard to provide documentation for something like that.  Conservative Christianity is what gives out the message to people that being gay is wrong and sinful.  I&#8217;m not saying they are the ONLY cause of bigotry and prejudice that the gay community faces, but they either provide ammunition without clarification, or directly participate in discriminating against the gay community.  I grew up in a very conservative Christian community, and state for that matter.</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 23:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nazis hated gays and they were not christians.  Just a remark.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nazis hated gays and they were not christians.  Just a remark.</p>
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