Comments on: David Scasta talks on NPR about the APA symposium

By: Ann

Ann — Tue, 13 May 2008 19:22:04 +0000

ABSOLUTELY AND WITHOUT RESERVATION!!!!

Michael,
Thank you – your comment and sincerity has filled my heart – this is really all I ever wanted or needed to hear and know.

By: Michael Bussee

Michael Bussee — Tue, 13 May 2008 19:15:41 +0000

By the way, I share Wayne’s hopes that Wendy will eventually drop EXODUS and follow in the footsteps of those former EXODUS leaders who had a change of heart — and came to believe that the message that homosexuality is evil (and ought ot be changed or supressed somehow) was harming, not helping the people I believe she truly loves.

By: Michael Bussee

Michael Bussee — Tue, 13 May 2008 19:10:53 +0000

If you cannot agree with the path another has taken, or you think it is sad that they would need such assistance, would you be willing to bless them with the hope of finding the same peace you have, even if your paths take different directions? I
ABSOLUTELY AND WITHOUT RESERVATION!!!!

By: Wayne Besen

Wayne Besen — Tue, 13 May 2008 19:00:00 +0000

1) Warren – you work at a school – the perfect setting for a symposium. Why doesn’t Grove Community College host an event where secualr therapsits explain why SIT is a bad idea. I can think of several shrinks who would be honored to attend. What are you afraid of?
2) Wendy’s ministry is harmful. It sends the terrible message that homosexuality is wrong. This damages young people and families – although I am convinced that is not her intention.
3) Due to the fact that Wendy is not trying to pass anti-gay laws (Exodus), deliberatly lie about GLBT life (NARTH), or affect incremental change in the psychological community (Thrckmorton) – I would basically agree to disagree with her and ignore her ministry. Wendy appears to mind her own business and thus I would mind my own and not concern myself with her activities.
4) A perfect example of this is Homosexuals Anonymous. I vehamently disagree with what they do. However, we have rarely addressed their damaging ministry because thier lack of politcal involvement. If Exodus would truly get out of politics (they haven’t yet) and if you would stop trying to fly under the radar, Warren, and harrass mental health organizations (I know you have been doing so) and if PFOX and NARTH would simply wear straight jackets and lock themselves in padded rooms, then we would all get along just fine.
5) I disagree with Wendy, but she is not the problem. If you haven’t noticed, we have never had a spat with her. We tend to concentrate on politically active charlatains, con artists and political operatives. I wish Wendy the best, but hope she follows in the footsteps of Jeremy Marks and turns her ex-gay minsitry into a pro-gay minsitry. Reinforcing shame in people – in the name of religion – is never healthy. And, telling people that God does not approve of the way they were born to love is always harmful. The less we have of this message the better off GLBT people will be.

By: Ann

Ann — Tue, 13 May 2008 18:56:05 +0000

even I think it is sad that people would need such assistance

Michael,
None of us can fully understand what is in someone else’s heart and why they feel and think in a different way than how we do, but they do, and that is all that matters. If you cannot agree with the path another has taken, or you think it is sad that they would need such assistance, would you be willing to bless them with the hope of finding the same peace you have, even if your paths take different directions? I think, that is what all this comes down to anyway – the ability to understand and respect each other, whether we agree or not.