Comments on: Wayne Besen links rape and the ex-gay movement

By: Michael Bussee

Michael Bussee — Thu, 15 May 2008 14:28:24 +0000

Mary Alan Chambers is the head of EXODUS. As such, he has the responsibility to LEAD — which means calling Black on the carpet when he needs it. Otherwise, it makes EXODUS look worse than it already is. SILENCE IMPIES CONSENT.

By: Warren

Warren — Wed, 14 May 2008 03:44:34 +0000

Pam – You gave me a good laugh with your comment.

By: Mary

Mary — Wed, 14 May 2008 02:13:13 +0000

Why not challenge Black to issue a statment since he is the one making it?

By: Mary

Mary — Tue, 13 May 2008 22:17:41 +0000

Geez Michael and et al,
Wayne knows exactly what he did in posting a provocative title to his writing. That he goes on to say that EXODUS and such groups would not support such a thing totally – again – overlooks the real issue – girls being raped (by any other name ) is still rape. Men and boys have called it many things – whatever – that girl woman needed to learn a lesson (power, control, violence against a whole gender.) It is the abuse of girls that is being overlooked and Besen spun it to his advantage and now cries foul?

By: pam ferguson

pam ferguson — Tue, 13 May 2008 21:46:29 +0000

I didn’t realize that Stephen Black had “called out” XGW like that. What a deal. The guy has absolutely no idea what he’s talking about. His cozying up to Kern and then spouting off statements like that discredits anything else he might say as far as I’m concerned.
I rarely read Wayne’s stuff either. It’s not that I don’t agree with some of the points he makes (as I’ve stated here), it’s just that when someone speaks with that sort of verbage it’s the ultimate red flag .
For me, to try and engage meaningfully with people (like Besen or Black) who communicate in those terms is, as they say, like mud wrestling a pig. We both get dirty and the pig enjoys it.