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	Comments on: American Psychiatric Association symposium on religion, therapy and homosexuality	</title>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Nate: Go to the top of the blog, the newest entry about the article from the Washington Times as well as my other posts on the issue. Julia Duin has a pretty good summation. Do not rely on the articles from the Gay City News as they are primarily attack pieces.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nate: Go to the top of the blog, the newest entry about the article from the Washington Times as well as my other posts on the issue. Julia Duin has a pretty good summation. Do not rely on the articles from the Gay City News as they are primarily attack pieces.</p>
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		By: Nate		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 21:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I heard this got canceled.  What happened?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard this got canceled.  What happened?</p>
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		By: BTCarolus		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Michael, I do hope I made it clear that I don&#039;t think identity politics is the right way of going about things.  I can&#039;t quite tell if you&#039;re reacting against me or the theory I represented.  Most of my experience with this comes from academia.  When it was time for me to choose a topic for my first major work (on Anglo-Saxon studies), my adviser (who normally does not go in for this sort of thing) immediately began detailing every woman in the AS texts, because he assumed that my being a girl would immediately incline me to choose a women&#039;s studies type of topic.  I surprised him by saying that I wanted to study the impact King Alfred of Wessex had on AS conceptions of kingship, which is not in any way, shape, or form something a typical feminist would choose.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, I do hope I made it clear that I don&#8217;t think identity politics is the right way of going about things.  I can&#8217;t quite tell if you&#8217;re reacting against me or the theory I represented.  Most of my experience with this comes from academia.  When it was time for me to choose a topic for my first major work (on Anglo-Saxon studies), my adviser (who normally does not go in for this sort of thing) immediately began detailing every woman in the AS texts, because he assumed that my being a girl would immediately incline me to choose a women&#8217;s studies type of topic.  I surprised him by saying that I wanted to study the impact King Alfred of Wessex had on AS conceptions of kingship, which is not in any way, shape, or form something a typical feminist would choose.</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BTCarolus:  Thanks for explaining this:  &lt;em&gt;&quot;Generally speaking ‘identity politics’ refers to the alignment of individuals into their group ‘identities’ which are presumed to represent their political interests because of the common ground represented by the identity.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;



That&#039;s a truckload of assumptions!   I am gay, but it&#039;s not my &quot;identity&quot;.  Thatt&#039;s only part .  I suppose you could say I beling to that group which does not find women romantically or sexually attractive, but I don&#039;t think of that as a &quot;group iidentity&quot;.



Finally, to &quot;presume&quot; that there is agreement on political interests or &quot;common ground&quot; with other gays just because I am gay is as silly as making these same  presumptions about straight people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTCarolus:  Thanks for explaining this:  <em>&#8220;Generally speaking ‘identity politics’ refers to the alignment of individuals into their group ‘identities’ which are presumed to represent their political interests because of the common ground represented by the identity.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a truckload of assumptions!   I am gay, but it&#8217;s not my &#8220;identity&#8221;.  Thatt&#8217;s only part .  I suppose you could say I beling to that group which does not find women romantically or sexually attractive, but I don&#8217;t think of that as a &#8220;group iidentity&#8221;.</p>
<p>Finally, to &#8220;presume&#8221; that there is agreement on political interests or &#8220;common ground&#8221; with other gays just because I am gay is as silly as making these same  presumptions about straight people.</p>
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		By: BTCarolus		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Generally speaking &#039;identity politics&#039; refers to the alignment of individuals into their group &#039;identities&#039; which are presumed to represent their political interests because of the common ground represented by the identity.  Somebody could be said to be playing identity politics if they were a black candidate and they constantly used their race to appeal to their potential black supporters, playing them off the white supporters of the other candidate.  Usually the &#039;identity&#039; encompasses a group seen as oppressed or marginalized by the dominant group in society.  Oftentimes opponents of identity politics point out that assuming that everyone with a shared characteristic shares uniform beliefs doesn&#039;t recognize that individuals that fall into specific categories may have differing opinions on certain issues, or feel they have certain needs that can&#039;t be met if they are seen as part of a collective.



This is often seen in academics when female scholars will only study areas dealing with women, GLBT scholars or Queer Theorists will only study areas pertaining to them, etc.  and is reflected by the rise of departments such as Women&#039;s Studies, Chicano Studies, or Pan-African Studies within universities, rather than said scholars working from traditional departments.  Unfortunately this often leads professors to assume that their students must only be interested in looking at subjects that pertain to their supposed identity, causing them to purposefully steer students towards pre-decided areas such as feminist issues or queer issues, rather than exposing students to the broad base of knowledge and allowing them to choose what interests them.  Overall it creates a vast pigeonholing effect that doesn&#039;t recognize or allow for individual variation, whether in policy choices, or personal choices.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally speaking &#8216;identity politics&#8217; refers to the alignment of individuals into their group &#8216;identities&#8217; which are presumed to represent their political interests because of the common ground represented by the identity.  Somebody could be said to be playing identity politics if they were a black candidate and they constantly used their race to appeal to their potential black supporters, playing them off the white supporters of the other candidate.  Usually the &#8216;identity&#8217; encompasses a group seen as oppressed or marginalized by the dominant group in society.  Oftentimes opponents of identity politics point out that assuming that everyone with a shared characteristic shares uniform beliefs doesn&#8217;t recognize that individuals that fall into specific categories may have differing opinions on certain issues, or feel they have certain needs that can&#8217;t be met if they are seen as part of a collective.</p>
<p>This is often seen in academics when female scholars will only study areas dealing with women, GLBT scholars or Queer Theorists will only study areas pertaining to them, etc.  and is reflected by the rise of departments such as Women&#8217;s Studies, Chicano Studies, or Pan-African Studies within universities, rather than said scholars working from traditional departments.  Unfortunately this often leads professors to assume that their students must only be interested in looking at subjects that pertain to their supposed identity, causing them to purposefully steer students towards pre-decided areas such as feminist issues or queer issues, rather than exposing students to the broad base of knowledge and allowing them to choose what interests them.  Overall it creates a vast pigeonholing effect that doesn&#8217;t recognize or allow for individual variation, whether in policy choices, or personal choices.</p>
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