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	Comments on: Religion and the 2008 election: A conversation with Paul Kengor, Fred Barnes and Michael Medved	</title>
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		By: jayhuck		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/04/10/religionandthe2008election/#comment-71590</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[In all fairness Drowssap -- you also took his words a bit out of context - what he said is:



&lt;i&gt;My job this morning is to be so persuasive…that a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany, and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Barack.&lt;/i&gt;



I think he was speaking to a group at Dartmouth.  I&#039;m also not convinced that there isn&#039;t a good deal of tongue-in-cheekness in his remarks :)



I&#039;m not saying I&#039;ve been happy by all of his remarks, but I do know how easy it is for such things to be taken out of context when you are in the public spotlight.  I&#039;m also sure he&#039;s made mistakes in his speeches, and I&#039;m sure he&#039;ll make more.  Whether he&#039;s creepy or not is up for debate.  At least he&#039;s no Dan Quayle ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all fairness Drowssap &#8212; you also took his words a bit out of context &#8211; what he said is:</p>
<p><i>My job this morning is to be so persuasive…that a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany, and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Barack.</i></p>
<p>I think he was speaking to a group at Dartmouth.  I&#8217;m also not convinced that there isn&#8217;t a good deal of tongue-in-cheekness in his remarks 🙂</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying I&#8217;ve been happy by all of his remarks, but I do know how easy it is for such things to be taken out of context when you are in the public spotlight.  I&#8217;m also sure he&#8217;s made mistakes in his speeches, and I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;ll make more.  Whether he&#8217;s creepy or not is up for debate.  At least he&#8217;s no Dan Quayle 😉</p>
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		By: Drowssap		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;jayhuck &lt;/strong&gt;



There are liberals everywhere, but clearly more live on the coasts.  The problem Obama has is...



According to his supporters

Rev Wright was taken out of context

Michelle Obama&#039;s statement that she has never proud of America was taken out of context

When Obama called his grandmother a &quot;typical white person&quot; his supporters claim that&#039;s out of context.

When Obama said that Middle American&#039;s are bitter and they cling to guns and religion that&#039;s out of context.



That will work (sort of) during a Dem primary because most liberals agree with those statements in ANY context.  But in the general election that won&#039;t wash.



To me personally his creepiest statements are those that compare his campaign to a religious awakening.



“… a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany … and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama”



My creep-o-meter goes to 11 on that one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>jayhuck </strong></p>
<p>There are liberals everywhere, but clearly more live on the coasts.  The problem Obama has is&#8230;</p>
<p>According to his supporters</p>
<p>Rev Wright was taken out of context</p>
<p>Michelle Obama&#8217;s statement that she has never proud of America was taken out of context</p>
<p>When Obama called his grandmother a &#8220;typical white person&#8221; his supporters claim that&#8217;s out of context.</p>
<p>When Obama said that Middle American&#8217;s are bitter and they cling to guns and religion that&#8217;s out of context.</p>
<p>That will work (sort of) during a Dem primary because most liberals agree with those statements in ANY context.  But in the general election that won&#8217;t wash.</p>
<p>To me personally his creepiest statements are those that compare his campaign to a religious awakening.</p>
<p>“… a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany … and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama”</p>
<p>My creep-o-meter goes to 11 on that one.</p>
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		By: jayhuck		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/04/10/religionandthe2008election/#comment-71588</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Drowssap -



&lt;i&gt;No, I mean right out of the liberal playbook that people from the midwest wouldn’t trust a man just because he’s black. He’s implying that people in flyover country are backwards or racist or whatever. The only reason I semi-forgive him for it is because of the laughter at the end of it. If there was some humor in it I cut him some slack.&lt;/i&gt;



Are you assuming there are no liberals in the midwest?  I did not get the sense that he was actually saying people were backwards - and I&#039;m from the Midwest :)  I truly think his message was misinterpreted and used by his opponents to mean something more offensive than was its intent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drowssap &#8211;</p>
<p><i>No, I mean right out of the liberal playbook that people from the midwest wouldn’t trust a man just because he’s black. He’s implying that people in flyover country are backwards or racist or whatever. The only reason I semi-forgive him for it is because of the laughter at the end of it. If there was some humor in it I cut him some slack.</i></p>
<p>Are you assuming there are no liberals in the midwest?  I did not get the sense that he was actually saying people were backwards &#8211; and I&#8217;m from the Midwest 🙂  I truly think his message was misinterpreted and used by his opponents to mean something more offensive than was its intent.</p>
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		By: Drowssap		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/04/10/religionandthe2008election/#comment-71587</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 03:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Right On!



From the original story:



Obama said this in 1995

&quot;I am surprised at how many elected officials--even the good ones--spend so much time talking about the mechanics of politics and not matters of substance.&quot;



Kind of funny considering he said this in Jan 2008...



&quot;... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama&quot;



That was a regular part of his campaign speech according to Newsweek magazine

&quot;the senator was fond of telling audiences that &quot;at some point in the evening, a light is going to shine down and you will have an epiphany and you’ll say, ‘I have to vote for Barack.&quot;



Was that the substance he felt was lacking back in 1995?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right On!</p>
<p>From the original story:</p>
<p>Obama said this in 1995</p>
<p>&#8220;I am surprised at how many elected officials&#8211;even the good ones&#8211;spend so much time talking about the mechanics of politics and not matters of substance.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kind of funny considering he said this in Jan 2008&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany &#8230; and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama&#8221;</p>
<p>That was a regular part of his campaign speech according to Newsweek magazine</p>
<p>&#8220;the senator was fond of telling audiences that &#8220;at some point in the evening, a light is going to shine down and you will have an epiphany and you’ll say, ‘I have to vote for Barack.&#8221;</p>
<p>Was that the substance he felt was lacking back in 1995?</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 03:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here is another &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/03/obama_flashback_1.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link to the MMM story...&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another <a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/03/obama_flashback_1.asp" rel="nofollow">link to the MMM story&#8230;</a></p>
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