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	Comments on: Interview with Chasing the Devil Producer Bill Hussung; premiere on Saturday	</title>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Timothy:  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s true that &quot;mainstream ex-gay ministries refuse to be interviewed&quot;.  On the contray, the film-maker I know has interviewed almost all of them.  The 50 to 100 interviews (I have lost count) make up an amazing  &quot;who&#039;s who&quot; of this field, many of whom have never consented to be filmed before.



It&#039;s a wonderful archive of this debate on film.  The film-maker has gone out of her way to be fair -- interviewing professionals and lay people, both &quot;pro and &quot;con&quot;.  At first, they willingly give consent  to be filmed and interviewed, then they get cold feet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy:  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s true that &#8220;mainstream ex-gay ministries refuse to be interviewed&#8221;.  On the contray, the film-maker I know has interviewed almost all of them.  The 50 to 100 interviews (I have lost count) make up an amazing  &#8220;who&#8217;s who&#8221; of this field, many of whom have never consented to be filmed before.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a wonderful archive of this debate on film.  The film-maker has gone out of her way to be fair &#8212; interviewing professionals and lay people, both &#8220;pro and &#8220;con&#8221;.  At first, they willingly give consent  to be filmed and interviewed, then they get cold feet.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the difficulty with accurately portraying ex-gays in a documentary are threefold:



1.  The point of a documentary on a different culture is to illustrate the differences.



A documentary on Spain, for example, wouldn&#039;t be very interesting if it covered Juan and Carlita living a middle class life, working in an office and watching TV at night.  No.  You need bull fights and flamenco and the Alhambra, all of which probably have very little direct impact on the life of the average Spaniard.



So what is a documentarian to show:  disapproval of homosexual behavior (nope, that&#039;s any conservative Christian), a same-sex person living celibately (nope, there are lots of straights doing the same)?  So what you get is something out of the ordinary and interesting:  casting demons out of anuses.



2.  You can only interview those willing to be interviewed.  And for reasons of their own, mainstream ex-gay ministries refuse to be interviewed.



But wacky folk, they NEVER object to a camera.  I doubt Stephen Bennett or Richard Cohen have ever turned away an interview.



3.  The public face of Exodus seems to be very different from the daily activities of the ministries.



In general, Exodus has for some time been very visible in anti-gay political activism and in making proclamations about &quot;change is possible&quot; and &quot;my story proves...&quot;.  But I don&#039;t think that this has been the focus of the individual ministries.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the difficulty with accurately portraying ex-gays in a documentary are threefold:</p>
<p>1.  The point of a documentary on a different culture is to illustrate the differences.</p>
<p>A documentary on Spain, for example, wouldn&#8217;t be very interesting if it covered Juan and Carlita living a middle class life, working in an office and watching TV at night.  No.  You need bull fights and flamenco and the Alhambra, all of which probably have very little direct impact on the life of the average Spaniard.</p>
<p>So what is a documentarian to show:  disapproval of homosexual behavior (nope, that&#8217;s any conservative Christian), a same-sex person living celibately (nope, there are lots of straights doing the same)?  So what you get is something out of the ordinary and interesting:  casting demons out of anuses.</p>
<p>2.  You can only interview those willing to be interviewed.  And for reasons of their own, mainstream ex-gay ministries refuse to be interviewed.</p>
<p>But wacky folk, they NEVER object to a camera.  I doubt Stephen Bennett or Richard Cohen have ever turned away an interview.</p>
<p>3.  The public face of Exodus seems to be very different from the daily activities of the ministries.</p>
<p>In general, Exodus has for some time been very visible in anti-gay political activism and in making proclamations about &#8220;change is possible&#8221; and &#8220;my story proves&#8230;&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t think that this has been the focus of the individual ministries.</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039; are some thoughts from the documentary film-maker I mentioned earlier -- about the difficulty of gaining the trust and cooperation of those she is filming:



&lt;em&gt;&quot;You might also think that everyone would be on their best behavior when someone has a camera and is getting ready to portray you &lt;em&gt;as you really are&lt;/em&gt; in a film. Surprisingly, people can show you their &lt;em&gt;worst&lt;/em&gt; side and try to bail out when they realize they may have not represented themselves very well.



Or, they are afraid to be too closely connected with the issue that has become the Pink Elephant in the sanctuary --  &quot;homosexuality&quot;  -- and don&#039;t want to appear to be &quot;soft&quot; on the issue or as if they are condoning it.



This project has been a delicate balancing act -- because of the fact that I went to both sides in an effort to help create a dialogue, I have had to weigh my thoughts and measure my words every step of the way. It&#039;s a fine line and I have been walking on dental floss for over 2 years now.



This is still an incredibly sensitive subject in many circles. I have often been told in back room conversations on the &quot;down low&quot; that &quot;it&#039;s just not good for business&quot; and that has been proven to me over and over again by several prominent Christian leaders.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217; are some thoughts from the documentary film-maker I mentioned earlier &#8212; about the difficulty of gaining the trust and cooperation of those she is filming:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;You might also think that everyone would be on their best behavior when someone has a camera and is getting ready to portray you </em><em>as you really are</em> in a film. Surprisingly, people can show you their <em>worst</em> side and try to bail out when they realize they may have not represented themselves very well.</p>
<p>Or, they are afraid to be too closely connected with the issue that has become the Pink Elephant in the sanctuary &#8212;  &#8220;homosexuality&#8221;  &#8212; and don&#8217;t want to appear to be &#8220;soft&#8221; on the issue or as if they are condoning it.</p>
<p>This project has been a delicate balancing act &#8212; because of the fact that I went to both sides in an effort to help create a dialogue, I have had to weigh my thoughts and measure my words every step of the way. It&#8217;s a fine line and I have been walking on dental floss for over 2 years now.</p>
<p>This is still an incredibly sensitive subject in many circles. I have often been told in back room conversations on the &#8220;down low&#8221; that &#8220;it&#8217;s just not good for business&#8221; and that has been proven to me over and over again by several prominent Christian leaders.&#8221;</p>
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		By: jayhuck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jayhuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;If EXODUS ever expects to be taken seriously or gain the respect of the public for being what Alan Chambers calls a “ministry for all”, then it needs to (1) get out of politics completely, (2) be completely honest and forthright about what “change”really means — and (3) clearly and completely disconnect from and denounce the “fringe”.&lt;/i&gt;



Absolutely!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If EXODUS ever expects to be taken seriously or gain the respect of the public for being what Alan Chambers calls a “ministry for all”, then it needs to (1) get out of politics completely, (2) be completely honest and forthright about what “change”really means — and (3) clearly and completely disconnect from and denounce the “fringe”.</i></p>
<p>Absolutely!!!!</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Concerned said in post 95339:



Nothing you said in this post disproved that NARTH mis-represented Hamer&#039;s research.  The fact that the media got it wrong as well doesn&#039;t absolve NARTH.



What Levay study (ies) are you referring to?



&lt;i&gt;It is good to see that they were thrown out because of their deception.&lt;/i&gt;



who is the &lt;i&gt;they&lt;/i&gt; you are referring to?  What where they thrown out of? and what was the &lt;i&gt;deception&lt;/i&gt;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerned said in post 95339:</p>
<p>Nothing you said in this post disproved that NARTH mis-represented Hamer&#8217;s research.  The fact that the media got it wrong as well doesn&#8217;t absolve NARTH.</p>
<p>What Levay study (ies) are you referring to?</p>
<p><i>It is good to see that they were thrown out because of their deception.</i></p>
<p>who is the <i>they</i> you are referring to?  What where they thrown out of? and what was the <i>deception</i>?</p>
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