Comments on: “Tucker letter” to Sally Kern ignites bloggers

By: Warren

Warren — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:30:54 +0000

Jane - I am aware of that; please see this statement from the Oklahoma Highway Patrol. If you have any further information, please share it...

By: Jane

Jane — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:16:04 +0000

Warren, here is the souce of the “Letter from Tucker”

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/kwtv/TSG5B8P35IEIR7IMS/p112

By: Warren

Warren — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:51:32 +0000

No problem, Pam. I am glad you corrected that so soon. I was set to research that and you saved me some time.

Zoe – You are correct, that line of thinking gets us into trouble very quickly. I think Kern gets the attention since she is first in the news but the idea that a group pushing for their agenda will somehow justify retribution is wrong.

By: pam ferguson

pam ferguson — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:47:19 +0000

Yikes! I just realised I gave some misinformation up there..

It’s not Kern who succeeded the husband as rep……it was another guy, Dank, who succeeded his wife….and his district is also right in the middle of the gay district and he’s staunchly Republican.

The thing ot take from all of that…or that I take from all of it, is that OKC is a really diverse place with folks literally living side-by-side who are polar opposite in viewpoint. I’m sure that’s probably true anywhere…but the lines seem to be pretty distinct up there.

I’m sorry for veering so far off-point Warren. I just felt strongly that I needed to correct what I’d said up there.

By: Zoe Brain

Zoe Brain — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:48:33 +0000

Here’s a recent quote from another politician.

Just Out: What is your reaction to the recent murders of out gay youth in Florida and California?

Oregon State Senator Gary George (R): Obviously murder is murder, there’s no excuse for that. Here’s what I’m saying, I think we’re seeing a backlash, in other words if you push me too hard don’t be surprised if I react. Gays will tend to react violently if people are oppressive toward them. If gays are oppressive toward straights, then you’ll see a violent backlash.

They’re getting more daring. Bolder.

Imagine if a state senator had said after a lynching of some black children:

I think we’re seeing a backlash, in other words if you push me too hard don’t be surprised if I react.. Blacks will tend to react violently if people are oppressive toward them. If blacks are oppressive toward whites, then you’ll see a violent backlash.

We have to stop this. We have to make sure that Churches take a strong line against it. Out of fear of condoning sin, they’re not. Well, we can see where that is leading.

By: pam ferguson

pam ferguson — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:18:46 +0000

Her constituents know/knew for the most part. The thing is…OKC is this humongous place as far as square miles….so there are numerous districts within the city itself. Her district butts right up to the district which is represented by an openly gay, Democrat (duh) 🙂 rep. But yeah….it’s not the basic sentiment so much that’s so astonishing coming from her (oh…btw…her husband had that district for 12 years and she came in unopposed after he’d run his term limits)….it’s the slanderous way she presents her anti-gay bias…….she got a standing ovation from the republican caucus on the Monday morning after her diatribe…

By: Mary

Mary — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:00:03 +0000

She has every right to speak her opinion. And the citizens have every right to vote for another citizen to speak for them. (If that’s what they want)

Also, were her opinions known by her constituents before taking office?? If not, and her vote sways the passing or not passing of a sensitive bill or measure that would effect the GLBT community, then her vote needs to be null and void. And that legislation needs to go back to the floor.

By: pam ferguson

pam ferguson — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 03:52:35 +0000

i’m thinking about moving up there and running for that spot.

LOL

I’ve been fortunate enough to get alot of the inside scuttlebut on this since my cousin is a Democrat in the house with Kern. Can’t share any of it…or he’d disown me…

but…

it’s been crazy up there, let me tell ya!

By: Mary

Mary — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:16:19 +0000

The woman made comments without consideration for those who have suffered at the hands of homegrown terrorists – the bloods, the crypts, the MLDS (I think that’s who they are), the white spupremists, christian fundamentalists who have vigiliantly acted on their own accord to disperse judgment on gays and “penalty” on gays in our cities, towns, schools, churches etc…

This woman does not represent my christian heritage nor values nor understanding of Christ. Nor does she represent my patriotism for freedom, choice, equality and stability.

In many ways she is the un-american, the un-christian, and hopefully soon to be the un-elected “public servant”.