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		By: Ivan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jayhuck,



Noa referred to the ex gay movement as the &quot;ex gay camp.&quot; This is all I meant. I don&#039;t see the relevance of how ex gays describe themselves -- As long as they identify with &quot;the camp.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jayhuck,</p>
<p>Noa referred to the ex gay movement as the &#8220;ex gay camp.&#8221; This is all I meant. I don&#8217;t see the relevance of how ex gays describe themselves &#8212; As long as they identify with &#8220;the camp.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Ivan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Noa,



Encouraging people to find out about ex gays isn&#039;t the same as recognizing them as they describe themselves, i.e., as &quot;happy content ex gays.&quot; Normally, I&#039;d definitely expect an apology or some kind of recognition, but ex gays and the ex gay movement are treated as a joke pretty much. And you will respond that they are a joke, but still, the point stands. The ex gay movement isn&#039;t all that bad that one can&#039;t recognize any good that they do. They are seen as one big farce.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noa,</p>
<p>Encouraging people to find out about ex gays isn&#8217;t the same as recognizing them as they describe themselves, i.e., as &#8220;happy content ex gays.&#8221; Normally, I&#8217;d definitely expect an apology or some kind of recognition, but ex gays and the ex gay movement are treated as a joke pretty much. And you will respond that they are a joke, but still, the point stands. The ex gay movement isn&#8217;t all that bad that one can&#8217;t recognize any good that they do. They are seen as one big farce.</p>
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		By: jayhuck		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/12/31/year-in-review-top-ten-stories-from-2007/#comment-67992</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jayhuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry - that post above should be addressed to IVAN, not EVAN :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8211; that post above should be addressed to IVAN, not EVAN 🙂</p>
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		By: jayhuck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jayhuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Evan,



&lt;i&gt;But that isn’t how the Ex Gay Movement would describe itself&lt;/i&gt;



I&#039;m not sure what you mean by this.  When I was talking about having problems with defining what Ex-Gay means, I was talking about the people within the movement itself  - what are YOU talking about when you say the Ex-Gay Movement?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan,</p>
<p><i>But that isn’t how the Ex Gay Movement would describe itself</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by this.  When I was talking about having problems with defining what Ex-Gay means, I was talking about the people within the movement itself  &#8211; what are YOU talking about when you say the Ex-Gay Movement?</p>
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		By: Noa Resare		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Noa Resare]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 14:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ivan, when you describe ex-ex-gays as people who doesn&#039;t recognize the existence of ex-gays that doesn&#039;t match my experience.



On the contrary, all ex-gay survivors I know of encourage everyone to find out as much as possible about the ex-gay movement. Of course, much of the commentary is critical but when ex-gay leaders does things that doesn&#039;t fit the &quot;ex-gay movement is abusive to it&#039;s core&quot; story line I &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/396c9s&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;read about it&lt;/a&gt; on places like ex-gay watch and box turtle bulletin.



I think generally that criticism such as the one you present benefits from being specific and not general.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ivan, when you describe ex-ex-gays as people who doesn&#8217;t recognize the existence of ex-gays that doesn&#8217;t match my experience.</p>
<p>On the contrary, all ex-gay survivors I know of encourage everyone to find out as much as possible about the ex-gay movement. Of course, much of the commentary is critical but when ex-gay leaders does things that doesn&#8217;t fit the &#8220;ex-gay movement is abusive to it&#8217;s core&#8221; story line I <a href="http://tinyurl.com/396c9s" rel="nofollow">read about it</a> on places like ex-gay watch and box turtle bulletin.</p>
<p>I think generally that criticism such as the one you present benefits from being specific and not general.</p>
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