Comments on: Rev. Joseph Stabile wants to put controversy to rest https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:29:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.2 By: James (the one all of this is about) https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/#comment-67774 Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:29:04 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/#comment-67774 To you all,

I am interested in wondering how gossip about whether or not I took medication or not is helping. The issue isn’t what I did wrong or right, or what Pastor Oden, Pastor Hill, or Pastor Baldwin and Heartland did right or wrong. We all did things wrong. The issue seems to be more about the fact that there are people out there who are declaring that they can heal people of homosexuality! That is what people need to be worried about not whose fault it was to take my medication. In response to the comment that I spent no money on PLM WRONG!!! I actually spent 5,000 dollars to go there and live, not to mention every penny of the money I made while i worked there! Those wanting more information can go to the Dallas Voice website and talk to John Wright about me.

Thanks,

James

]]> By: Nick https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/#comment-67773 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:34:36 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/#comment-67773 Lance is gay. He has posted on his site (www.signposts2.wordpress.com) that he meets anonymous men for gay sex in local gay hang outs in his city. He is a radio announcer for a radio station in his city. He mostly just reads the news and football scores.

]]> By: Mary https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/#comment-67772 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:08:38 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/#comment-67772 Brent,

I’m sorry but I will not be emailing you in private. My experience is that men and woman are very different on this issue. In addition, everyone has a different background, different theology, different perspective on what is sexuality, gender and love. These things alone are huge items to consider. Please consider consulting with Dr. Throckmorton. Take care.

Mary

]]> By: brent https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/#comment-67771 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:44:36 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/#comment-67771 Mary,

Just wondering if you could please email me and let me know exactly what you did to become an “ex gay”. I’ve been struggling with this for quite some time, and have been grasping for straws as I try to find a way to have the life I want to have….

brentjones.ky@gmail.com is the email, and I really hope to hear from you soon! thank you!

]]> By: Mary https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/#comment-67770 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 07:00:23 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/#comment-67770 Let’s not confuse one group with another.

I am ex gay and don’t rally outside gay bars. If you want to go to a gay bar – go. Have fun. Be with friends and drive safely when you leave.

I am ex gay and don’t buy that Isaiah Highway preaching. Um… that’s like calling Hollywood a realistic picture of America.

I am ex gay and do take ex gay therapy seriously. It’s not about other people and why a person seeks therapy is up to them – they can walk out at ANY time.

I am ex gay and don’t like (from what I have heard and read about) those ex gay camps – they sound unproductive, like little prisons, unsafe, humiliating, cult like etc…

I am ex gay and watch/read all kinds of sources for my news information (rarely is it religious)

And I have no idea what you mean by fire but when I yell Fire! you can sure bet there is a real fire.

So, Lance, please don’t lump us all into one group even if you are a christian – we might just see things very differently. And if you are gay I’ll try not to imagine you in a pink tutu swishing down the aisle of the grocery store??? Fair?

]]> By: Mike Airhart https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/#comment-67769 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:21:24 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/#comment-67769 Pure Life stated that its staffers controlled and dispensed the meds at their option. The staffers are unlicensed amateurs, not licensed medical or mental-health professionals.

PLM has performed no aftercare and permitted no surveys of its success and failure rates. A handful of anecdotes (some of them anonymous) do not qualify as a documented track record of success.

]]> By: isea metaphor https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/#comment-67768 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:00:44 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/#comment-67768 Well, what you’re saying sounds terrible, but it didn’t happen in the Stabiles case. How does ‘having someone witness that James takes his meds as presribed’ constitute of ‘losing control’ of his meds. He didn’t seem to be ‘in control of them,’ under his parents care, when he wandered up to the church group on the street corner.

I’m confused, the church was blamed for James not taking his meds and Pure Life is blamed for verifying that he takes his meds. It would seem terrible to blame his parents for the two and a half weeks that they didn’t notice he was off his meds.

No documented track record of success? You don’t know anyone who has gone through the program, do you?

Did you catch in the article last week? Money paid to Pure Life was described as ‘HiS.’ And this week it said that the $2100. was… ‘raised.’

I respect the parents desire to be private, but I would have respected it more if they stayed private until they could verify that all of their printed claims were true… or if they would be big enough to go back and correct the things that are still untrue.

]]> By: Mike Airhart https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/#comment-67767 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:39:41 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/#comment-67767 I respect the Stabiles’ desire for privacy. James Stabile should be left alone — but Oden and PLM apparently continue to wage war against the health and spiritual well-being of others.

How many more people will be given demonic “healings,” stereotyped, shipped off to a religious group that lacks professional therapeutic credentials, lose control of their psychiatric meds to untrained amateur staffers, and be robbed of thousands of dollars for unprofessional treatment that (in PLM’s case) has no documented track record of success?

It is the duty of true Christians — indeed, anyone with a conscience — to stop such unholy travesty. The Stabiles’ legitimate call for privacy is in no way an excuse to allow culture warriors to commit heresy, abuse, and ethical breaches against others in the name of God and morality.

]]> By: James E. Phelan https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/#comment-67766 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:21:32 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/#comment-67766 Lance said:

“I think the US should be declared legally insane and locked-up.”

Thanks for the hateful, terrorist-like comment.

]]> By: isea metaphor https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/#comment-67765 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:42:53 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/12/19/rev-joseph-stabile-wants-to-put-controversy-to-rest/#comment-67765 Well, it’s interesting that nothing documents these claims yet. It causes one to wonder if the truth is being searched for. If I was trying to investigate this situation for the ‘truth’… I guess I would start with asking those involved to confirm or deny it. And then I might investigate, ‘where’ in today’s advanced society, I might find proof and documentation of these claims. It would be nice if reporters would document THEIR claims before alerting an ‘already disillusioned’ audience. You’re doing a better job Warren. I appreciate it. I like you for it. Sorry to be irritated, but I feel even more sorry for those that think they have a true understanding of the situation.

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