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		By: jag		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tim...funny...



Arthur, you clearly need to do some reading on homosexuality as well as social graces. Although I have to say, reading your words reminds me how much work there is to do in educating the public about issues around sexual orientation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim&#8230;funny&#8230;</p>
<p>Arthur, you clearly need to do some reading on homosexuality as well as social graces. Although I have to say, reading your words reminds me how much work there is to do in educating the public about issues around sexual orientation.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In general, I&#039;ve found that the presence of intellectually stimulating thought is inversely proportional to the number of exclamation points applied.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In general, I&#8217;ve found that the presence of intellectually stimulating thought is inversely proportional to the number of exclamation points applied.</p>
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		By: Arthur Glass		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arthur Glass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ask the people in our jails and judicial systems, why or where did they go wrong....I would believe that the majority would tell you what they didnt have as a child or a series of events that influenced them negatively! Better yet, visit our churches (i am a God loving christian) better known as a hospital for the broken hearted and spirited, full of people in bad situations, comming out of situations, who have over come bad situations; ask them where did they go wrong.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask the people in our jails and judicial systems, why or where did they go wrong&#8230;.I would believe that the majority would tell you what they didnt have as a child or a series of events that influenced them negatively! Better yet, visit our churches (i am a God loving christian) better known as a hospital for the broken hearted and spirited, full of people in bad situations, comming out of situations, who have over come bad situations; ask them where did they go wrong&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Arthur Glass		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actualy, I&#039;m very aware of the words that I chose while comparing the three.(not to be offensive)  Would there be a dispute to say that who we are is influenced at a very young age by the peolple around us and life or situations as it presents itself? My toddler son puts on his older sisters shoes, he walks on his tippy toes and even sings along with female singers on the radio.....could this become a problem ? could be....or not...

I correct him and his mom says He&#039;s just a baby....Cause thats my job; to teach him to be a man/ to correct any behavior that I feel is inoprpriate (including masterbation, talking back, tempertantrums, feminine behavior, sharing, ect) Well contray to some beliefs if you don have the balance and lifes lessons applied apprpriately, well, thats when you have room for inapropriate behaviors, attitudes, and oreintations to become a mind set, inbedded in a personality, and then becomes a life style!....

  Now don&#039;t get me wrong, We all fall short (especially me) but just based on family members, associates, and your statements, I equivalize homesualism with a theif who started at a young age, sexual preditor who started off masterbating, people who have anger management issues.....it&#039;s just a behavior that was not correct at a vital time and has spiraled into a life style!!!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actualy, I&#8217;m very aware of the words that I chose while comparing the three.(not to be offensive)  Would there be a dispute to say that who we are is influenced at a very young age by the peolple around us and life or situations as it presents itself? My toddler son puts on his older sisters shoes, he walks on his tippy toes and even sings along with female singers on the radio&#8230;..could this become a problem ? could be&#8230;.or not&#8230;</p>
<p>I correct him and his mom says He&#8217;s just a baby&#8230;.Cause thats my job; to teach him to be a man/ to correct any behavior that I feel is inoprpriate (including masterbation, talking back, tempertantrums, feminine behavior, sharing, ect) Well contray to some beliefs if you don have the balance and lifes lessons applied apprpriately, well, thats when you have room for inapropriate behaviors, attitudes, and oreintations to become a mind set, inbedded in a personality, and then becomes a life style!&#8230;.</p>
<p>  Now don&#8217;t get me wrong, We all fall short (especially me) but just based on family members, associates, and your statements, I equivalize homesualism with a theif who started at a young age, sexual preditor who started off masterbating, people who have anger management issues&#8230;..it&#8217;s just a behavior that was not correct at a vital time and has spiraled into a life style!!!!!!!</p>
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		By: jag		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 00:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Arthur -



You stated this..

&quot;I meant the concept of homosexuality is just as crazy as marrying a family member…….&quot; and then &quot;Just like a child caught masterbating; its a emotion that should and has to be corrected , but, just like i said usually there is no one there to tell you its not appropriate…….&quot;



Arthur, this is truly insulting, not to mention ill-informed. You are comparing homosexuality to incest? To a child masturbating?



Those who in same-sex relationships or marry the same-sex are not engaging in child-like behaviors, some are adults making very adult decisions based on their understanding of God, their faith, and well-reasoned soulful and intelligent decisions they believe are blessed by God.



If you ask anyone on this forum with their various perspectives about homosexuality, they would likely agree that it is not simply an &quot;emotion&quot; that needs to be corrected. Orientation is much more complex than this...and it cannot simply be &quot;corrected,&quot; as you suggest it can be. We have debated even the definition of what &quot;change&quot; is....and the various thoughts have led to endless discussions, thinking and evaluating on my part.



So please Arthur, consider your words before you speak them. Consider that you write to a varied audience with various orientations, family structures, and perspectives. Consider that you write to a well-informed audience, and please reconsider your words before slandering what others hold very dear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arthur &#8211;</p>
<p>You stated this..</p>
<p>&#8220;I meant the concept of homosexuality is just as crazy as marrying a family member…….&#8221; and then &#8220;Just like a child caught masterbating; its a emotion that should and has to be corrected , but, just like i said usually there is no one there to tell you its not appropriate…….&#8221;</p>
<p>Arthur, this is truly insulting, not to mention ill-informed. You are comparing homosexuality to incest? To a child masturbating?</p>
<p>Those who in same-sex relationships or marry the same-sex are not engaging in child-like behaviors, some are adults making very adult decisions based on their understanding of God, their faith, and well-reasoned soulful and intelligent decisions they believe are blessed by God.</p>
<p>If you ask anyone on this forum with their various perspectives about homosexuality, they would likely agree that it is not simply an &#8220;emotion&#8221; that needs to be corrected. Orientation is much more complex than this&#8230;and it cannot simply be &#8220;corrected,&#8221; as you suggest it can be. We have debated even the definition of what &#8220;change&#8221; is&#8230;.and the various thoughts have led to endless discussions, thinking and evaluating on my part.</p>
<p>So please Arthur, consider your words before you speak them. Consider that you write to a varied audience with various orientations, family structures, and perspectives. Consider that you write to a well-informed audience, and please reconsider your words before slandering what others hold very dear.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ah, yes.  The &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;spin on words&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes.  The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire" rel="nofollow">spin on words</a></p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Arthur,



Please note the spin on words -



&quot;I’m sorry that you feel that you are getting away from God’s intent.&quot;



When you actually said this -



&quot;People are getting further away from Gods intent and getting comfortable with going with they’re own feelings,(every man is just in their own eyes)&quot;



This took the prize though -



&quot;I’m sure we would all be willing to pray for you so that you return to God’s intent&quot;



This was an easy one to read as it was short but no different in the self serving message.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arthur,</p>
<p>Please note the spin on words &#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m sorry that you feel that you are getting away from God’s intent.&#8221;</p>
<p>When you actually said this &#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;People are getting further away from Gods intent and getting comfortable with going with they’re own feelings,(every man is just in their own eyes)&#8221;</p>
<p>This took the prize though &#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m sure we would all be willing to pray for you so that you return to God’s intent&#8221;</p>
<p>This was an easy one to read as it was short but no different in the self serving message.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Arthur,



I&#039;m sorry that you feel that you are getting away from God&#039;s intent.  If you like, I&#039;m sure we would all be willing to pray for you so that you return to God&#039;s intent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arthur,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry that you feel that you are getting away from God&#8217;s intent.  If you like, I&#8217;m sure we would all be willing to pray for you so that you return to God&#8217;s intent.</p>
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		By: Arthur Glass		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arthur Glass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tim, Tim, Tim,

 So much you need to learn! Knowledge is one thing and understanding is another, and that&#039;s why Jesus was so angry, because they had knowledge and religion, but they had no understanding or love for rightiousness....... Remember that the days of Genesis and the laws of the land were definatly diffrent than what they are today, thats why Jesus came and we don&#039;t have to sacrifise sheep and goats any more......Lets not get too deep; People are getting further away from Gods intent and getting comfortable with going with they&#039;re own feelings,(every man is just in their own eyes) and this has been happening since Adam and Eve. Although distruction is clear people don&#039;t see it! No one wants to be a failure, so since it&#039;s so hard to live rightiously we make our own individual rules to justify our short commings and feel proud.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, Tim, Tim,</p>
<p> So much you need to learn! Knowledge is one thing and understanding is another, and that&#8217;s why Jesus was so angry, because they had knowledge and religion, but they had no understanding or love for rightiousness&#8230;&#8230;. Remember that the days of Genesis and the laws of the land were definatly diffrent than what they are today, thats why Jesus came and we don&#8217;t have to sacrifise sheep and goats any more&#8230;&#8230;Lets not get too deep; People are getting further away from Gods intent and getting comfortable with going with they&#8217;re own feelings,(every man is just in their own eyes) and this has been happening since Adam and Eve. Although distruction is clear people don&#8217;t see it! No one wants to be a failure, so since it&#8217;s so hard to live rightiously we make our own individual rules to justify our short commings and feel proud.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry Arthyr.  I didn&#039;t realize that you were talking about masturbation.



In that case I would have discussed the Biblical story of Onan, in Genesis 38.  Although that is the only place in Scripture in which masturbation is discussed, God certainly set clear what he believes about masturbation in that story.



Onan should have impregnated his brother&#039;s widow rather than masturbate.  We know that impregnating your brother&#039;s widow is very very important so that she can have children.



We all need more spiritual education on impregnating widows.  I&#039;m glad you are setting that as your goal.



I, myself, don&#039;t have any widowed sister-in-laws.  And both sister-in-laws already have children so I think your comments may not relate to me.



But, nonetheless, I support this new campaign of yours.  Amen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry Arthyr.  I didn&#8217;t realize that you were talking about masturbation.</p>
<p>In that case I would have discussed the Biblical story of Onan, in Genesis 38.  Although that is the only place in Scripture in which masturbation is discussed, God certainly set clear what he believes about masturbation in that story.</p>
<p>Onan should have impregnated his brother&#8217;s widow rather than masturbate.  We know that impregnating your brother&#8217;s widow is very very important so that she can have children.</p>
<p>We all need more spiritual education on impregnating widows.  I&#8217;m glad you are setting that as your goal.</p>
<p>I, myself, don&#8217;t have any widowed sister-in-laws.  And both sister-in-laws already have children so I think your comments may not relate to me.</p>
<p>But, nonetheless, I support this new campaign of yours.  Amen.</p>
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