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	Comments on: Hey, I read it in the papers &#8211; Paul Cameron extends his methods	</title>
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		By: Mary		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/16/hey-i-read-it-in-the-papers-paul-cameron-extends-his-methods/#comment-65571</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s take a look at CNN and or MSNBC and FOX News - all of which have heavily reported on the recent sexual crimes of female teachers with male students.   To take this as evidence that that is the only sexual crime being committed by pedophiles is similar to newspaper articles only reporting on same sex pedophiles.    Where are the other pedophiles??  Hiding right under our noses as usual.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s take a look at CNN and or MSNBC and FOX News &#8211; all of which have heavily reported on the recent sexual crimes of female teachers with male students.   To take this as evidence that that is the only sexual crime being committed by pedophiles is similar to newspaper articles only reporting on same sex pedophiles.    Where are the other pedophiles??  Hiding right under our noses as usual.</p>
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		By: jayhuck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jayhuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nemario,



Is your need to believe in the findings of this study so great that you can&#039;t see its methods are awful?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nemario,</p>
<p>Is your need to believe in the findings of this study so great that you can&#8217;t see its methods are awful?</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/16/hey-i-read-it-in-the-papers-paul-cameron-extends-his-methods/#comment-65569</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 01:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nemario - Please supply us with references to studies done using newspaper clippings as samples -- not done by Cameron.



What adoption post are you referring to? I think you might be thinking of another blog.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nemario &#8211; Please supply us with references to studies done using newspaper clippings as samples &#8212; not done by Cameron.</p>
<p>What adoption post are you referring to? I think you might be thinking of another blog.</p>
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		By: Nemario		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nemario]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems that you&#039;re more interested in dismissing the research with sarcasm than discussing its merits vs. its variables.  This is not the first study to collect data using newspapers.  In fact many studies do.  I saw that you recently invoked on a Christian web log the phrase &quot;bearing false witness&quot; when calling on people to shun this research, but what you&#039;re doing is hardly Christian yourself.  For a Christian psychologist, what you&#039;re doing isn&#039;t any different than your liberal counterparts.  Support what you like and bash and discredit what you don&#039;t like like a bunch of grown up children who can&#039;t handle something.



..and by the way, you posted a few posts before this about an adoption center that refused to look into a complaint of abuse from a child with two gay adoptive parents, because they were afraid it would be seen as discrimination.  So much for &quot;Not to mention that same sex perpetrations might actually be more likely to be reported and made public.&quot;  Discuss the data and variables as they are and quit the sarcasm and typical scientific bashing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that you&#8217;re more interested in dismissing the research with sarcasm than discussing its merits vs. its variables.  This is not the first study to collect data using newspapers.  In fact many studies do.  I saw that you recently invoked on a Christian web log the phrase &#8220;bearing false witness&#8221; when calling on people to shun this research, but what you&#8217;re doing is hardly Christian yourself.  For a Christian psychologist, what you&#8217;re doing isn&#8217;t any different than your liberal counterparts.  Support what you like and bash and discredit what you don&#8217;t like like a bunch of grown up children who can&#8217;t handle something.</p>
<p>..and by the way, you posted a few posts before this about an adoption center that refused to look into a complaint of abuse from a child with two gay adoptive parents, because they were afraid it would be seen as discrimination.  So much for &#8220;Not to mention that same sex perpetrations might actually be more likely to be reported and made public.&#8221;  Discuss the data and variables as they are and quit the sarcasm and typical scientific bashing.</p>
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		By: Ray		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems a nonsensical thing to criticize the source of the data used to study a phenomenon which has no universally accepted scientific definition. With no definition for &quot;homosexuality&quot; no one really knows what is being studied.  To call it &quot;same sex &quot; sex won&#039;t satisfy most &quot;gays&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems a nonsensical thing to criticize the source of the data used to study a phenomenon which has no universally accepted scientific definition. With no definition for &#8220;homosexuality&#8221; no one really knows what is being studied.  To call it &#8220;same sex &#8221; sex won&#8217;t satisfy most &#8220;gays&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Jim Burroway		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Burroway]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;You know - a person can always start several publications of their own - print whatever they want and use that as bona fide fact.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Cameron went a step further. He started an online only &quot;journal.&quot; Most people would call that a &quot;web site.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You know &#8211; a person can always start several publications of their own &#8211; print whatever they want and use that as bona fide fact.</p></blockquote>
<p>Cameron went a step further. He started an online only &#8220;journal.&#8221; Most people would call that a &#8220;web site.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Eddy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve gotten into this &#039;sidebar&#039; habit now when I visit I site. So, I took a gander at their review board. (Rather than retype them, it&#039;s SO easy to follow the link to the article and then click the sidebar.) You can all rest easy though because they actually have an examiner of statistics. Kirk Cameron.     ...I was thinking I should drop him a line...tell him how much I enjoyed him in &quot;Growing Pains&quot;...



I followed the other sidebar link and discovered way down the page that &#039;A number of our editors and reviewers are anonymous because they fear for their careers&#039;. This will make David&#039;s challenge of searching the reviewers a bit more daunting. I wager we&#039;ll find a few members of the Unification Church in the mix.



BTW: by being so flip in the last paragraph, I may have minimized the importance of reading the &#039;About EJSSB&#039; link in their sidebar. It&#039;s not pretty--and I don&#039;t know where to begin...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve gotten into this &#8216;sidebar&#8217; habit now when I visit I site. So, I took a gander at their review board. (Rather than retype them, it&#8217;s SO easy to follow the link to the article and then click the sidebar.) You can all rest easy though because they actually have an examiner of statistics. Kirk Cameron.     &#8230;I was thinking I should drop him a line&#8230;tell him how much I enjoyed him in &#8220;Growing Pains&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>I followed the other sidebar link and discovered way down the page that &#8216;A number of our editors and reviewers are anonymous because they fear for their careers&#8217;. This will make David&#8217;s challenge of searching the reviewers a bit more daunting. I wager we&#8217;ll find a few members of the Unification Church in the mix.</p>
<p>BTW: by being so flip in the last paragraph, I may have minimized the importance of reading the &#8216;About EJSSB&#8217; link in their sidebar. It&#8217;s not pretty&#8211;and I don&#8217;t know where to begin&#8230;</p>
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		By: David Blakeslee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Blakeslee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[URGH.



This is peer reviewed?!?!



Anybody want to do a search on his fellow reviewers?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>URGH.</p>
<p>This is peer reviewed?!?!</p>
<p>Anybody want to do a search on his fellow reviewers?</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You know - a person can always start several publications of their own - print whatever they want and use that as bona fide fact.  Yeah - I would not regard the newspaper as the ultimate record keeper on any issue.  Whatever happened to getting primary data - don&#039;t researchers and socialist do that anymore??]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know &#8211; a person can always start several publications of their own &#8211; print whatever they want and use that as bona fide fact.  Yeah &#8211; I would not regard the newspaper as the ultimate record keeper on any issue.  Whatever happened to getting primary data &#8211; don&#8217;t researchers and socialist do that anymore??</p>
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		By: Norm!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norm!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[According to news statistics, 100% of all suspected homosexual Idahoan US Senators have anonymous sex in airport bathrooms.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to news statistics, 100% of all suspected homosexual Idahoan US Senators have anonymous sex in airport bathrooms.</p>
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