BTW – I don’t ever remember using an online source like Encarta (which I NEVER use) to define Ex-Gay. If I did, please refresh my memory. When I listed out the 4 items that I believe encompass the term Ex-Gay, or the different ways people have told me they understand ex-gay, I was just going from memory. Is that what you were talking about?

Sorry – No Go – I have absolutely nothing to hide, but I’m not going to share all that personal information about myself on a public forum – If you like, I can send the answers to Warren and he can get them to you.

Possibly know all that?????

Anybody of the ex-gay side who begins to blog here endures Timothy’s ‘background quiz’.

This is an offensive and unfounded accusation. I’ve let the past few snide comments about me slide, Eddy. But this time I think you owe me an apology.

Jayhuck,

Jim Burroway looked at Yarhouse and Jones’ last collaboration here

LOL…MAJOR flub on my part. Expedia is my online travel connection…I mixed the name up with Encarta, the online dictionary.

Re answering the 3 questions offline (approximate age, amount of actual exposure to Exodus and Ex-Gays, and education) I’m not at all comfortable with that. I’ll raise the questions again if it’s clear that they speak to your credibility on an authoritative statement. In other words, if they address a real question of ‘how could he KNOW that’. Might not even come up.

I think the listings above indicate a broader publishing record than your assessment makes.

Lynn David,

No, joke. This is what real research looks like, incomplete, suggestive and often requiring further inquiry.

Cynicism does not serve us, especially when people are working hard to provide the best data available and comment on it realistically.

But likely, the funda-conservative right will make hay will the sun yet doesn’t shine on it.

I believe Yarhouse and Jones have been published in scholarly journals prior to this book publication. So they know what scholarly writing is.

I did a search on their publications (looking to see if they had published any interim results – apparently not). It looks like most (all) of their published papers were in religious (christian) publications: ex. the Journal of Psychology and Christianity. Personally, I don’t really think religion and science make a good mix.

The success rate of any therapuetic intervention is about 30-50%. Depression never really gets solved (a person learns new coping skills), Borderline personality never gets cured (a person just learns to manage better) etc.. 30-50 is kind of high – in my estimation. And if a person is really concerned about their sexuality in that sense then those odds are worth the investigation. It is better than 0 chance.