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		By: Eddy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 09:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, forgot all about it until mom sent a pic a while back. My memories of gram were perfect...the dress, the shoes, the apron...I just forgot the bonnet. (Never knew my grandpa on dad&#039;s side; he died  a few years before my mom and dad even met. I&#039;ve heard he was an itinerant &#039;fire and brimstone&#039; type preacher. ) Mom&#039;s side is all Irish Catholic. Dad converted in order to marry mom and we were raised Catholic. I begged my way out of Catholic school after 9th grade.

Another fun &#039;gram&#039; memory. I&#039;ve mentioned that I&#039;m very short. Well, some occasion came up...I was probably between 8 and 11...and we went to visit grams sister.



First, the idea of gram having a sister threw me. Gram was Gram. She always had been. What&#039;s this deal about having a sister and a past life? So, then we get there and, now that I understand, I can&#039;t wait to see this person.



We find her in the kitchen, with the freezer door ajar. She&#039;s small and a bit bent. I notice the age like I never did with gram. I also notice the shortness. Her eyes are barely level with the bottom of the freezer. My six brothers and I are all standing at our &#039;most polite attention&#039; and I start nudging mom to ask a question. Sensing it won&#039;t be good, perhaps, she shushed me. And again when I nudged again. On my third try, she finally asked, &quot;What?&quot; I pointed at &#039;Aunt Sadie&quot; and, with dread in my voice, iwhispered rather loudly &quot;Is THAT going to happen to US?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, forgot all about it until mom sent a pic a while back. My memories of gram were perfect&#8230;the dress, the shoes, the apron&#8230;I just forgot the bonnet. (Never knew my grandpa on dad&#8217;s side; he died  a few years before my mom and dad even met. I&#8217;ve heard he was an itinerant &#8216;fire and brimstone&#8217; type preacher. ) Mom&#8217;s side is all Irish Catholic. Dad converted in order to marry mom and we were raised Catholic. I begged my way out of Catholic school after 9th grade.</p>
<p>Another fun &#8216;gram&#8217; memory. I&#8217;ve mentioned that I&#8217;m very short. Well, some occasion came up&#8230;I was probably between 8 and 11&#8230;and we went to visit grams sister.</p>
<p>First, the idea of gram having a sister threw me. Gram was Gram. She always had been. What&#8217;s this deal about having a sister and a past life? So, then we get there and, now that I understand, I can&#8217;t wait to see this person.</p>
<p>We find her in the kitchen, with the freezer door ajar. She&#8217;s small and a bit bent. I notice the age like I never did with gram. I also notice the shortness. Her eyes are barely level with the bottom of the freezer. My six brothers and I are all standing at our &#8216;most polite attention&#8217; and I start nudging mom to ask a question. Sensing it won&#8217;t be good, perhaps, she shushed me. And again when I nudged again. On my third try, she finally asked, &#8220;What?&#8221; I pointed at &#8216;Aunt Sadie&#8221; and, with dread in my voice, iwhispered rather loudly &#8220;Is THAT going to happen to US?&#8221;</p>
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		By: jag		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jag]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eddy...it&#039;s funny that you overlooked the bonnet because if was on grandma. lol...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddy&#8230;it&#8217;s funny that you overlooked the bonnet because if was on grandma. lol&#8230;</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/08/09/focus-on-the-family-helps-aids-fund-raiser/#comment-7271</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ann,



What a lot of people do not realize is that there are many sects of christianity as well as sects of judaism, and muslim.  And we of any particular group choose to be of that group and do not agree with others of our &quot;same&quot; religion.  Believing in the same prophet does not mean believing the same about the prophet.

There are even splits among the mormons, the catholics, etc.. There are the Calvinists the Weslyans among the protestants - and on and on it goes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann,</p>
<p>What a lot of people do not realize is that there are many sects of christianity as well as sects of judaism, and muslim.  And we of any particular group choose to be of that group and do not agree with others of our &#8220;same&#8221; religion.  Believing in the same prophet does not mean believing the same about the prophet.</p>
<p>There are even splits among the mormons, the catholics, etc.. There are the Calvinists the Weslyans among the protestants &#8211; and on and on it goes.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[yes, this is the reason I wanted to know the breakdown - I really think it will tell a story and hopefully direct any future concern/criticism to the right place instead of just clumping all of Christianity together.  From what I have seen with these statistics, it is a very big and diverse religion that has the capability to respond individually according to the individual beliefs of the denomination - even there, I see some inconsistency.  I really hope Christianity (faith and belief) is not judged on what one errant or provoctive denomination, church, staff, or members do or say.  I also feel the same about other organizations and religions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, this is the reason I wanted to know the breakdown &#8211; I really think it will tell a story and hopefully direct any future concern/criticism to the right place instead of just clumping all of Christianity together.  From what I have seen with these statistics, it is a very big and diverse religion that has the capability to respond individually according to the individual beliefs of the denomination &#8211; even there, I see some inconsistency.  I really hope Christianity (faith and belief) is not judged on what one errant or provoctive denomination, church, staff, or members do or say.  I also feel the same about other organizations and religions.</p>
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		By: Eddy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks JAG.



LOL...I remembered a few of those other groups that would be lumped under &quot;Protestant&quot;...Mennonite, Amish sects, Quakers. Strangest thing about forgetting them is that I&#039;m originally from Pennsylvania and my dad&#039;s mom actually wore the white bonnet most of her life. (Funny...when it&#039;s &#039;gram&#039; wearing the bonnet you don&#039;t even notice it.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks JAG.</p>
<p>LOL&#8230;I remembered a few of those other groups that would be lumped under &#8220;Protestant&#8221;&#8230;Mennonite, Amish sects, Quakers. Strangest thing about forgetting them is that I&#8217;m originally from Pennsylvania and my dad&#8217;s mom actually wore the white bonnet most of her life. (Funny&#8230;when it&#8217;s &#8216;gram&#8217; wearing the bonnet you don&#8217;t even notice it.)</p>
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		By: jag		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/08/09/focus-on-the-family-helps-aids-fund-raiser/#comment-7268</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jag]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eddy -



&quot;I think as time marches on, the PEW Review might need to break down their Protestant numbers somehow to give a more accurate picture of churches and their influence.&quot;



Great point on this...and thank you Timothy for the breakdown...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddy &#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;I think as time marches on, the PEW Review might need to break down their Protestant numbers somehow to give a more accurate picture of churches and their influence.&#8221;</p>
<p>Great point on this&#8230;and thank you Timothy for the breakdown&#8230;</p>
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		By: Eddy		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/08/09/focus-on-the-family-helps-aids-fund-raiser/#comment-7267</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Timothy, Oooooh.....you HAVE done your homework! LOL. I haven&#039;t thought it through but, at the moment, that sure sounds true. My gut wants to add some others to the first group (Catholics, Baptists, Mormons and Pentecostals) but I&#039;m thinking that ties in to my other point about the denominations that have the big theological differences within them. LOL. I&#039;m just glad we recognize the same distinctions!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy, Oooooh&#8230;..you HAVE done your homework! LOL. I haven&#8217;t thought it through but, at the moment, that sure sounds true. My gut wants to add some others to the first group (Catholics, Baptists, Mormons and Pentecostals) but I&#8217;m thinking that ties in to my other point about the denominations that have the big theological differences within them. LOL. I&#8217;m just glad we recognize the same distinctions!</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 01:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good point, Eddy.



Although they are as far apart as you can get theologically and still be &quot;Christian&quot;, as far as politics and culture go the Catholics, Mormons, Baptists and Pentecostals have more in common with each other than they do with Episcopalians, Lutherans or Presbyterians.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Eddy.</p>
<p>Although they are as far apart as you can get theologically and still be &#8220;Christian&#8221;, as far as politics and culture go the Catholics, Mormons, Baptists and Pentecostals have more in common with each other than they do with Episcopalians, Lutherans or Presbyterians.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 01:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jag,



Very, very  interesting - thank you!



Timothy,



Thank you answering my second question and sending the breakdown - I&#039;m going to study it as I have never seen this information before.



Eddy,



Thank you for your comments - it is always nice to have a meaningful dialogue, regardless of where two or more people originally stand on issues - where we start could be completely different from where we end up - it is what we learn from each other in between that matters - if I respect someone, I&#039;m going to want to listen to what they say, whether I agree with it or not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jag,</p>
<p>Very, very  interesting &#8211; thank you!</p>
<p>Timothy,</p>
<p>Thank you answering my second question and sending the breakdown &#8211; I&#8217;m going to study it as I have never seen this information before.</p>
<p>Eddy,</p>
<p>Thank you for your comments &#8211; it is always nice to have a meaningful dialogue, regardless of where two or more people originally stand on issues &#8211; where we start could be completely different from where we end up &#8211; it is what we learn from each other in between that matters &#8211; if I respect someone, I&#8217;m going to want to listen to what they say, whether I agree with it or not.</p>
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		By: Eddy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First I&#039;d really like to say a special thanks to both JAG and Ann for focussed and respectful discussion. JAG you get extra credit for a wealth of valuable information that you&#039;ve shared. Thanks! Good reading and thought-provoking.

I did want to comment on the results of the PEW Review Council. JAG did cite that Protestants (as the largest group) represented &#039;multiple denominational families&#039;. I think what caught my attention was the fact that the PEW review council seemed to see all Protestants as pretty much the same thing. Yet the term would include (I presume) Baptists, Methodists, Lutherans, Episcopalians, Congregationalists, United Church of Christ, Presbyterians, and many more. It strikes me that some of these groups hold more to a &#039;born-again&#039; theology while others simply try to &#039;live by Christian principles&#039;. And, among the Protestants--and even within most of the individual denominations--there are differing views on issues such as homosexuality, divorce, abortion. LOL! I think as time marches on, the PEW Review might need to break down their Protestant numbers somehow to give a more accurate picture of churches and their influence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I&#8217;d really like to say a special thanks to both JAG and Ann for focussed and respectful discussion. JAG you get extra credit for a wealth of valuable information that you&#8217;ve shared. Thanks! Good reading and thought-provoking.</p>
<p>I did want to comment on the results of the PEW Review Council. JAG did cite that Protestants (as the largest group) represented &#8216;multiple denominational families&#8217;. I think what caught my attention was the fact that the PEW review council seemed to see all Protestants as pretty much the same thing. Yet the term would include (I presume) Baptists, Methodists, Lutherans, Episcopalians, Congregationalists, United Church of Christ, Presbyterians, and many more. It strikes me that some of these groups hold more to a &#8216;born-again&#8217; theology while others simply try to &#8216;live by Christian principles&#8217;. And, among the Protestants&#8211;and even within most of the individual denominations&#8211;there are differing views on issues such as homosexuality, divorce, abortion. LOL! I think as time marches on, the PEW Review might need to break down their Protestant numbers somehow to give a more accurate picture of churches and their influence.</p>
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