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	Comments on: US House includes counselors in Medicare legislation	</title>
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	<description>A [retired] college psychology professor&#039;s observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues</description>
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		By: Paul		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/08/02/us-house-includes-counselors-in-medicare-legislation/#comment-7088</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The issue here which is really exciting is the potential end of discrimination in the psychotherapy profession.  There are 10&#039;s of thousands of highly skilled, deeply and broadly quailifed licensed counselors who are prevented from helping people simply because State or Federal Laws only approve certian types of professionals (who have VERY good lobbyists) even though the training is either identical or in some cases superior to the &quot;approved&quot; professionals.  I can (and have) run circles around licensed psychologists in court, for example, but I am prevented from doing some things they do and can&#039;t provide services to certain people (like military or veterans) because of discriminatory laws.  IF and WHEN this happens, SO MANY people will be afforded expanded care and help.  When stats indicate  that 87% of visits to a primary care physician are stress related, can you imagine if ALL (not just some) of the qualified professionals could help people of all ages manage and reduce their stress what potential that wold have on the entire healtcare insurance industry in reducing the cost of insurance?  THis is a VERY GOOD THING for everyone!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue here which is really exciting is the potential end of discrimination in the psychotherapy profession.  There are 10&#8217;s of thousands of highly skilled, deeply and broadly quailifed licensed counselors who are prevented from helping people simply because State or Federal Laws only approve certian types of professionals (who have VERY good lobbyists) even though the training is either identical or in some cases superior to the &#8220;approved&#8221; professionals.  I can (and have) run circles around licensed psychologists in court, for example, but I am prevented from doing some things they do and can&#8217;t provide services to certain people (like military or veterans) because of discriminatory laws.  IF and WHEN this happens, SO MANY people will be afforded expanded care and help.  When stats indicate  that 87% of visits to a primary care physician are stress related, can you imagine if ALL (not just some) of the qualified professionals could help people of all ages manage and reduce their stress what potential that wold have on the entire healtcare insurance industry in reducing the cost of insurance?  THis is a VERY GOOD THING for everyone!</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/08/02/us-house-includes-counselors-in-medicare-legislation/#comment-7087</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, sorry; well, Medicaid is a state by state thing. Most states do fund therapy and do so for psychologists. However, again, it must be medically necessary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, sorry; well, Medicaid is a state by state thing. Most states do fund therapy and do so for psychologists. However, again, it must be medically necessary.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/08/02/us-house-includes-counselors-in-medicare-legislation/#comment-7086</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Warren said:



&lt;i&gt;Ken - Medicare already reimburses psychologists, psychiatrists and social workers for counseling services.&lt;/i&gt;



That&#039;s why I said medicaid not medicare.  I agree that seniors are not a big market for reparative therapy.  However, teenagers/20-somethings who are depressed over their orientation would certainly make a tempting target for reparative therapists, especially if they can get the government to foot the bill.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren said:</p>
<p><i>Ken &#8211; Medicare already reimburses psychologists, psychiatrists and social workers for counseling services.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I said medicaid not medicare.  I agree that seniors are not a big market for reparative therapy.  However, teenagers/20-somethings who are depressed over their orientation would certainly make a tempting target for reparative therapists, especially if they can get the government to foot the bill.</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/08/02/us-house-includes-counselors-in-medicare-legislation/#comment-7085</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ken - Medicare already reimburses psychologists, psychiatrists and social workers for counseling services. And the services must be medically necessary. I would not worry about a government funded boom in reparative therapy for older Americans on the horizon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken &#8211; Medicare already reimburses psychologists, psychiatrists and social workers for counseling services. And the services must be medically necessary. I would not worry about a government funded boom in reparative therapy for older Americans on the horizon.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/08/02/us-house-includes-counselors-in-medicare-legislation/#comment-7084</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While I think counseling would be an appropriate use for medicaid, I see a downside to this.  The government deciding what is or is not appropriate mental health counseling is something I would be concerned about.  I&#039;m sure it will require counselors to be licensed in order to be eligible for government funds, but what happens when guys like Nicholosi (sp) start wanting a piece of the action for their counseling services?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I think counseling would be an appropriate use for medicaid, I see a downside to this.  The government deciding what is or is not appropriate mental health counseling is something I would be concerned about.  I&#8217;m sure it will require counselors to be licensed in order to be eligible for government funds, but what happens when guys like Nicholosi (sp) start wanting a piece of the action for their counseling services?</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/08/02/us-house-includes-counselors-in-medicare-legislation/#comment-7083</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 02:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[this is wonderful news - early intervention with children is so important as well as those who need counseling and otherwise could not afford it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is wonderful news &#8211; early intervention with children is so important as well as those who need counseling and otherwise could not afford it.</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/08/02/us-house-includes-counselors-in-medicare-legislation/#comment-7082</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Or PTSD because of a natural disaster, or other mishap - like 9/11, fallen bridge,  public violence ie: shooting,  victims of violent crimes,  foster children with abuse backgrounds,  etc.. etc..  Not all of these people are religious believers or practitioners and children are so vulnerable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or PTSD because of a natural disaster, or other mishap &#8211; like 9/11, fallen bridge,  public violence ie: shooting,  victims of violent crimes,  foster children with abuse backgrounds,  etc.. etc..  Not all of these people are religious believers or practitioners and children are so vulnerable.</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/08/02/us-house-includes-counselors-in-medicare-legislation/#comment-7081</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nemario - Have you been away for awhile? Medicare has been around since the 1960s. Most insurance pays for mental health care. Nothing wrong with seeing a pastor but mine would refer you if you wanted treatment for panic disorder.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nemario &#8211; Have you been away for awhile? Medicare has been around since the 1960s. Most insurance pays for mental health care. Nothing wrong with seeing a pastor but mine would refer you if you wanted treatment for panic disorder.</p>
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		By: Nemario		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/08/02/us-house-includes-counselors-in-medicare-legislation/#comment-7080</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nemario]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In other words, we need to pay for people if they can&#039;t handle their problems on their own. Go to a church, the pastors there are free.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other words, we need to pay for people if they can&#8217;t handle their problems on their own. Go to a church, the pastors there are free.</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/08/02/us-house-includes-counselors-in-medicare-legislation/#comment-7079</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 22:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is very good news.  A family member of mine could use some family counseling and she just does not have the money.  Her daughter could benefit from this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very good news.  A family member of mine could use some family counseling and she just does not have the money.  Her daughter could benefit from this.</p>
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