Comments on: The Edge continues “My ex-gay life” series: Dissecting reparative therapy https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/07/25/the-edge-continues-my-ex-gay-life-series-dissecting-reparative-therapy/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Wed, 01 Aug 2007 20:10:56 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: Lynn David https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/07/25/the-edge-continues-my-ex-gay-life-series-dissecting-reparative-therapy/#comment-6958 Wed, 01 Aug 2007 20:10:56 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/07/25/the-edge-continues-my-ex-gay-life-series-dissecting-reparative-therapy/#comment-6958 Okay… huh?

Okay….

]]> By: Drowssap https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/07/25/the-edge-continues-my-ex-gay-life-series-dissecting-reparative-therapy/#comment-6957 Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:29:12 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/07/25/the-edge-continues-my-ex-gay-life-series-dissecting-reparative-therapy/#comment-6957 Lynn

I dunno why I always forget to mention the important stuff.

The dead giveaway we are talking about environment is the age at which people experience SSA. If men started out straight but around the age of 50 or 60 they began to experience SSA a gene/environment combo would be very likely. However SSA begins in people’s earliest memories, long before they’ve had a chance to sprinkle their genes across the landscape.

A secondary fertility benefit or something equivalent is the only way this gene could survive. Until they find something like that I’m going with the safe bet.

]]> By: Drowssap https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/07/25/the-edge-continues-my-ex-gay-life-series-dissecting-reparative-therapy/#comment-6956 Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:48:25 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/07/25/the-edge-continues-my-ex-gay-life-series-dissecting-reparative-therapy/#comment-6956 Lynn

If I only knew 3 things.

1)Phenomenon reduces fertility

2)Exists worldwide for thousands of years

3)2% to 3% of people experience it

Right there I’d bet the house on environment.

Science could make an unprecedented finding and I could be completely wrong. But when you are talking about something very common and very old like SSA the smart money is always on the environment.

]]> By: Lynn David https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/07/25/the-edge-continues-my-ex-gay-life-series-dissecting-reparative-therapy/#comment-6955 Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:44:48 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/07/25/the-edge-continues-my-ex-gay-life-series-dissecting-reparative-therapy/#comment-6955 Drowssap wrote: I think we are gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. The system concept is standard Darwinian dogma.

Gee… it is? Hmmm…. Wasn’t necessarily that way when I studied paleontology/biogeology. Maybe we geologists are just a little too simplistic in our outlook, “KISS” and all all. Yep, agree to disagree.

And also: Do you have any human example where genes have been responsible for something similar to the gay/fertility theory? I mean a gene that offers the same kind of +/- in the fitness column and is widespread around the globe.

Nope. We are speaking about chance gene expression of genes from an X-chromosome which overrides the Y-chromosome. Maybe transgenderism in men as a result of the expression of a diferent gene from the X-chromosome? But it is a situation which appears to be unique… why can it not be a unique situation?

]]> By: Drowssap https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/07/25/the-edge-continues-my-ex-gay-life-series-dissecting-reparative-therapy/#comment-6954 Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:27:14 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/07/25/the-edge-continues-my-ex-gay-life-series-dissecting-reparative-therapy/#comment-6954 Timothy Kincaid

However, we must be cautious not to assume that because something can occur post-natal and because in some rare instances it can be correlated with early trauma that therefore this is an indication of the usual or expected means of origin.

Agreed, in fact I don’t believe homosexuality is post natal. I think orientation has already been chosen by birth.

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