From the Christian Post

Glatze, however, has made it clear that his transformation through Jesus Christ, which ultimately led him to denounce homosexuality, began in 2003 – four years before he was baptized into the Mormon church. He also says his association with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints – the official name of the Mormon church – is “just part of a huge process and journey,” and that he is receiving help from Matt Barber of Concerned Women for America who is suggesting some “scripturally-sound” evangelical churches for Glatze to attend.

It seems that Glatze is taking the Richard Cohen approach to religion. He’s taste testing.

He was baptised into the church but didn’t convert? Fill me in here.

The discussion aspect of the blog works better if we at least bring mutual respect to the table. Your comments in your last post indicate you have no respect for any ex-gays; you have already pre-judged them all. As one of the ex-gays that regularly blogs here, I’m offended.

The discussion also works better if we are somewhat informed. Michael Glatze isn’t the spawn of Exodus or the ‘ex-gay movement’. He came to his beliefs ‘on his own’ and did not use the services of any ex-gay group in his process. (The Exodus-related folks that I am in touch with actually cringe and wince at Glatze’s bluntness. And there’s a concern for one ‘so young in the faith’ to be stepping out so boldly into a real battleground.) So, if you see him and Exodus as the same, it’s obvious that you do see only in black and white as Timothy suggested.

Just so I understnad what you are reading – what are you refering to in my posts that makes you say that I am disingenuous.

And you often do clump all ex gays into one group and so I am making a distinction. I’m sure you wouldn’t want me to clump you into some of the “gay” groups – would you?

And I didn’t say they were.

What incentive do I have to lie? Don’t gays have incentive to lie – by the same token??? Gays make improbable claims about ….? You fill in the blank.

It’s a little disengenuous to start claiming ex-gay isn’t your side after previous posts made clear it is.

“It does help to distinguish between the organized, public, political ex-gay leaders and the individual struggler.”

I can’t be bothered anymore. Unfortunately my life has taught me to see every person who claims to be “ex-gay” as an potential enemy. These individuial strugglers, as you call them, seem to have no qualms in attacking my life and trying to make it as difficult as possible.

As I said, I would like to believe differently, but I can not. And nothing I’ve seen so far has made me change my opinion.

“Ex Gay” is not my side. My side is that of equality, peace, etc… I happen to be ex gay. And not all ex gays are bad people.

Well, I spent a week with the Faeries in Wolf Creek, Oregon — and I got to say that 1) they themselves are not a monolithic whole and 2) nonetheless, a great many of them struck as me warm, kind, friendly inviduals.

What’s with the Faerie-bashing, then?