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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The man is a fraud and a coward.



He is nothing but a casualty in the anti-gay backlash that has seized the nation.



I pity him, as he will undoubtedly look back on his life one day and come to realize he has profoundly betrayed his gay brothers and sisters.



Though I am struggling to have an open mind and compassion for this guy, for the most part, I am revolted.



The guy needs to deal with his being fucked up on a stage that isn&#039;t public, that much is for certain.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The man is a fraud and a coward.</p>
<p>He is nothing but a casualty in the anti-gay backlash that has seized the nation.</p>
<p>I pity him, as he will undoubtedly look back on his life one day and come to realize he has profoundly betrayed his gay brothers and sisters.</p>
<p>Though I am struggling to have an open mind and compassion for this guy, for the most part, I am revolted.</p>
<p>The guy needs to deal with his being fucked up on a stage that isn&#8217;t public, that much is for certain.</p>
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		By: luke		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[luke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jayhuck, in yourpost # 37050 you said:

&quot;That’s going to make for pretty biased, non-peer-reviewed, unscientific research - I mean if you’re going to research yourself.&quot;



I want you to know that I am not going to research myself, only. Maybe my poor English lead you to understand I would.



I am searching bio, psyco and sociological theories and evidences for homosexuality (same-sex attraction) and change.



At the moment, my research nas not been peer-reviewed because I am not at any Research Institute or something like that. I want to publish my own story and to present the &quot;state of the art&quot; on this issue.



Many people here tell things that can´t be prooved. Those who thinks &quot;there&#039;s no ex-gay&quot; are believing in myths, not in science.



The best post here up to now was made by Mary, who said:



&quot;Ex ex gays exist, gays exist and ex gays exist.  Saying it ain&#039;t so - doesn&#039;t make it so.&quot;



If you are going to take science as a democratic way of searching and presentig what it had found, you are about to accept Mary&#039;s point of view.



My change occurred TEN years ago and I can tell you it was radical, complete and once and for all!



To say that I am &quot;supressing my desires&quot; means nothing to me. By the way, I think no one could only &quot;supress&quot; their desires and to live a healthy life with his wife and kids. I think it couldn´t be possible to me because I love sex. I really enjoy it. All the time.



I think I couldn´t being &quot;supressing&quot; my fantasies... I mean, I  don´t have homo dreams, homo arousal and so on.



What do you have to say?



This is the point: I am healed!



Althought people don´t like this expression (healed) I don´t care to use it to express what have happened to me. I don´t need to be &quot;politically correct&quot; and I won´t.



If there is &quot;no scientific proof that true and lasting change exists&quot; it is just a matter of &quot;agenda&quot;. Changed men are not interested in &quot;being an object&quot; for research centres.



By the way, there will never be a scientific proof that &quot;true&quot; and &quot;long lasting&quot; change exists... someone will always be free to say &quot;this is not true, really&quot; or &quot;ten years is not a lasting change&quot; or &quot;twenty years is not a lasting change&quot; and so on.



I think there is no need to argue with those who do not desire to change. I am doing my job to present an alternative for those who WANT to change. I am not talking about religion and my work is not based only on my personal story. People will get surprised when ( if ) they read my book because they will see that the knowledge about change is all around but they just haven´t seen it because they are spending their time in fights and empty talk.



It is not a matter of &quot;finding the truth&quot; but to present an true alternative for those who are searching for an way out.



That&#039;s all!



Luke (Claudio)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jayhuck, in yourpost # 37050 you said:</p>
<p>&#8220;That’s going to make for pretty biased, non-peer-reviewed, unscientific research &#8211; I mean if you’re going to research yourself.&#8221;</p>
<p>I want you to know that I am not going to research myself, only. Maybe my poor English lead you to understand I would.</p>
<p>I am searching bio, psyco and sociological theories and evidences for homosexuality (same-sex attraction) and change.</p>
<p>At the moment, my research nas not been peer-reviewed because I am not at any Research Institute or something like that. I want to publish my own story and to present the &#8220;state of the art&#8221; on this issue.</p>
<p>Many people here tell things that can´t be prooved. Those who thinks &#8220;there&#8217;s no ex-gay&#8221; are believing in myths, not in science.</p>
<p>The best post here up to now was made by Mary, who said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Ex ex gays exist, gays exist and ex gays exist.  Saying it ain&#8217;t so &#8211; doesn&#8217;t make it so.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you are going to take science as a democratic way of searching and presentig what it had found, you are about to accept Mary&#8217;s point of view.</p>
<p>My change occurred TEN years ago and I can tell you it was radical, complete and once and for all!</p>
<p>To say that I am &#8220;supressing my desires&#8221; means nothing to me. By the way, I think no one could only &#8220;supress&#8221; their desires and to live a healthy life with his wife and kids. I think it couldn´t be possible to me because I love sex. I really enjoy it. All the time.</p>
<p>I think I couldn´t being &#8220;supressing&#8221; my fantasies&#8230; I mean, I  don´t have homo dreams, homo arousal and so on.</p>
<p>What do you have to say?</p>
<p>This is the point: I am healed!</p>
<p>Althought people don´t like this expression (healed) I don´t care to use it to express what have happened to me. I don´t need to be &#8220;politically correct&#8221; and I won´t.</p>
<p>If there is &#8220;no scientific proof that true and lasting change exists&#8221; it is just a matter of &#8220;agenda&#8221;. Changed men are not interested in &#8220;being an object&#8221; for research centres.</p>
<p>By the way, there will never be a scientific proof that &#8220;true&#8221; and &#8220;long lasting&#8221; change exists&#8230; someone will always be free to say &#8220;this is not true, really&#8221; or &#8220;ten years is not a lasting change&#8221; or &#8220;twenty years is not a lasting change&#8221; and so on.</p>
<p>I think there is no need to argue with those who do not desire to change. I am doing my job to present an alternative for those who WANT to change. I am not talking about religion and my work is not based only on my personal story. People will get surprised when ( if ) they read my book because they will see that the knowledge about change is all around but they just haven´t seen it because they are spending their time in fights and empty talk.</p>
<p>It is not a matter of &#8220;finding the truth&#8221; but to present an true alternative for those who are searching for an way out.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all!</p>
<p>Luke (Claudio)</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;3. The practices outlined in the Little Black Book for Boys (created by mainstream gay activists for kids)&lt;/i&gt;



Let&#039;s have a quick fact check about the &quot;Little Black Book&quot;.



1. The Massachusetts story is about the &lt;i&gt;Little Black Book&lt;/i&gt;, not &lt;i&gt;The Little Black Book for Boys.&lt;/i&gt;



2.  The book was not written for kids nor was it to have been distributed to kids.



3.  Mass Resistance simply lied (they often do) when they said it was distributed to hundreds of elementary age kids.  That didn&#039;t happen.  It was included in a stack of resourse materials on a table that accidentally (and stupidly) was not reviewed for age appropriateness.  They estimate that 10 copies were brought - and as of now neither Mass Resistance nor anyone else can show that a single copy ended up in the hands of a child.



4.  While the pamphlet is (in my opinion) not appropriate for high school aged kids (or at least not when I was in high school), this was the audience that would have been exposed to the book - not younger children.  According to the organizers, there were a handful of younger-than-high-school kids there.



5.  There is a book being created called The Little Black Book for Boys which actually is created for kids.  It will be out in September.  As far as I know, it is age appropriate.



6.  The purpose of the book is HIV prevention and the target age was 18 to early 20&#039;s.  The language and nature of the book is more graphic than I prefer ... but I&#039;m not the target audience.  And the language is certainly no more graphic than the music that their audience is exposed to daily.  And while the pamphlet provides non-judgmental advice on things that I&#039;m a bit judgmental about (both sexual and drug related), the information in it may save lives (a quick review provided info I didn&#039;t know).  On it&#039;s own, the Little Black Book may be questionable in taste and wisdom (I wouldn&#039;t have done it that way) - but not exactly objectionable.  The only way to make it so is to claim that it was distributed to children... so that&#039;s what was claimed.



But I think Sonja knows all this... and just doesn&#039;t care.  It&#039;s much more fun to repeat a myth.  Teri, alas, was just the victim of the lies that people like Mass Resistance spread.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>3. The practices outlined in the Little Black Book for Boys (created by mainstream gay activists for kids)</i></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s have a quick fact check about the &#8220;Little Black Book&#8221;.</p>
<p>1. The Massachusetts story is about the <i>Little Black Book</i>, not <i>The Little Black Book for Boys.</i></p>
<p>2.  The book was not written for kids nor was it to have been distributed to kids.</p>
<p>3.  Mass Resistance simply lied (they often do) when they said it was distributed to hundreds of elementary age kids.  That didn&#8217;t happen.  It was included in a stack of resourse materials on a table that accidentally (and stupidly) was not reviewed for age appropriateness.  They estimate that 10 copies were brought &#8211; and as of now neither Mass Resistance nor anyone else can show that a single copy ended up in the hands of a child.</p>
<p>4.  While the pamphlet is (in my opinion) not appropriate for high school aged kids (or at least not when I was in high school), this was the audience that would have been exposed to the book &#8211; not younger children.  According to the organizers, there were a handful of younger-than-high-school kids there.</p>
<p>5.  There is a book being created called The Little Black Book for Boys which actually is created for kids.  It will be out in September.  As far as I know, it is age appropriate.</p>
<p>6.  The purpose of the book is HIV prevention and the target age was 18 to early 20&#8217;s.  The language and nature of the book is more graphic than I prefer &#8230; but I&#8217;m not the target audience.  And the language is certainly no more graphic than the music that their audience is exposed to daily.  And while the pamphlet provides non-judgmental advice on things that I&#8217;m a bit judgmental about (both sexual and drug related), the information in it may save lives (a quick review provided info I didn&#8217;t know).  On it&#8217;s own, the Little Black Book may be questionable in taste and wisdom (I wouldn&#8217;t have done it that way) &#8211; but not exactly objectionable.  The only way to make it so is to claim that it was distributed to children&#8230; so that&#8217;s what was claimed.</p>
<p>But I think Sonja knows all this&#8230; and just doesn&#8217;t care.  It&#8217;s much more fun to repeat a myth.  Teri, alas, was just the victim of the lies that people like Mass Resistance spread.</p>
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		By: Nemario		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Terri&#039;s point is that we&#039;re seeing patterns. It&#039;s an anything goes mindset, like in NGLTFâ€™s 2006 â€œCreating Changeâ€, Matt Foreman lays out &quot;that gay agenda&quot;. &quot;Sexual freedom&quot; according to their &quot;vision&quot; is a human right (right now they&#039;re apparently focused on women and girls having the right to choose), and while right now they&#039;re focused on marriage &quot;equality&quot;  and all the rights that come with it, their &quot;vision&quot; is that social benefits should not depend on marital status.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Terri&#8217;s point is that we&#8217;re seeing patterns. It&#8217;s an anything goes mindset, like in NGLTFâ€™s 2006 â€œCreating Changeâ€, Matt Foreman lays out &#8220;that gay agenda&#8221;. &#8220;Sexual freedom&#8221; according to their &#8220;vision&#8221; is a human right (right now they&#8217;re apparently focused on women and girls having the right to choose), and while right now they&#8217;re focused on marriage &#8220;equality&#8221;  and all the rights that come with it, their &#8220;vision&#8221; is that social benefits should not depend on marital status.</p>
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		By: jayhuck		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Warren,



I&#039;d very much like to see the same thing, but let&#039;s face it, those kinds of stunts are what sell tickets to Exodus events, and why groups like Exodus and FotF will continue to take 3 steps back for every 2 steps forward.  Things won&#039;t change at all until these kinds of things stop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d very much like to see the same thing, but let&#8217;s face it, those kinds of stunts are what sell tickets to Exodus events, and why groups like Exodus and FotF will continue to take 3 steps back for every 2 steps forward.  Things won&#8217;t change at all until these kinds of things stop.</p>
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