I don’t think the you-haven’t-experienced-it-so-you-can’t-possibly-understand argument works here! I agree with Tim

A person may have sexual inclinations but it seems that the gay community want ex gays to only focus on the gay feelings they have and not the vast and broad range of other feelings and emotions they have about their own sexuality.

That makes just about as much sense as complaining that coca-cola dealers only want to focus on when their restaurants serve Pepsi and ignore the bread sticks, cheese cake, and penne arabiata.

It’s because in the context of “ex-gay” it just isn’t relevant what someone feels about their cat. It doesn’t matter if they not alone drinking every night. I really doesn’t even matter if are closer to God. If the discussion is “changing sexual orientation” than that which is relevant is “sexual orientation”, not whether they are happier or have different values.

So yeah, that’s what we focus on. If you want to talk about religious conversion, well jolly for you. But when you talk about “change” in the context of attractions, then it seems to us to be a classic bait and switch to then say, “oh, but I meant something else”.

Sexual abuse of children is not sex – it is abuse. And though my heart aches deeply for those children who have suffered at the hands of the Catholic church, there are priests who are not involved in that.

Jag,

A person may have sexual inclinations but it seems that the gay community want ex gays to only focus on the gay feelings they have and not the vast and broad range of other feelings and emotions they have about their own sexuality. I do not think that those who live celebate lives by their own choice are lving miserble lives. It is closer to their faith and values than to live and act out on their same sex attracted feelings. You might not think so – but it is not your life they are living. As far as my inclinations and attractions towards women – they are far and few between and not something I struggle with in the same way that others might. That is today – it may change in the future. But it is my choice to live as I choose according to my perspective and so it is with you and others – gay, straight, ex gay, ex gay celibate, ex ex gay or whatever.

Mary – obviously, you have’nt been paying attention. There are thousands of fomer alter boys who might differ with you.