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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/06/25/science-of-gaydar-open-forum/#comment-5894</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;It would be foolish to eliminate anyone and their contributions.&lt;/i&gt;



On this we can agree]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It would be foolish to eliminate anyone and their contributions.</i></p>
<p>On this we can agree</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/06/25/science-of-gaydar-open-forum/#comment-5893</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 20:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It would be foolish to eliminate anyone and their contributions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be foolish to eliminate anyone and their contributions.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/06/25/science-of-gaydar-open-forum/#comment-5892</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mary,



Go back and read what I wrote.  And stop assuming that I&#039;m asserting something that I&#039;m not.



My point is this:  gay people have contributed significantly to humanity.  Were their contributions because they were gay?  I don&#039;t know.  But I do know that if you compiled a list of those who are heroes of science, literature, and the arts you would find that a disproportionate percentage were not traditionally heterosexual - certainly more than the percentage of gay people in the population at large.



Why is this?  Well it could be that whatever it is that contributes to homosexuality genetically (and there most certainly is, for some, a genetic contributing factor) may also contribute to atypical brain functioning.  Or it may be that being &quot;different&quot; or &quot;other&quot; led such persons to think outside the box.  Or it may be that social disapproval removed opportunities to be mundanely employed and out of neccessity they had to be creative.  Or it may simply be that without a wife and kids they had more time.



But, whatever it is, gay people have contributed more than their share.  And it would be, in my opinion, foolish to take steps to eliminate homosexuality.  We cannot be certain that by doing so we would not also be eliminating a significant portion of future contributions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary,</p>
<p>Go back and read what I wrote.  And stop assuming that I&#8217;m asserting something that I&#8217;m not.</p>
<p>My point is this:  gay people have contributed significantly to humanity.  Were their contributions because they were gay?  I don&#8217;t know.  But I do know that if you compiled a list of those who are heroes of science, literature, and the arts you would find that a disproportionate percentage were not traditionally heterosexual &#8211; certainly more than the percentage of gay people in the population at large.</p>
<p>Why is this?  Well it could be that whatever it is that contributes to homosexuality genetically (and there most certainly is, for some, a genetic contributing factor) may also contribute to atypical brain functioning.  Or it may be that being &#8220;different&#8221; or &#8220;other&#8221; led such persons to think outside the box.  Or it may be that social disapproval removed opportunities to be mundanely employed and out of neccessity they had to be creative.  Or it may simply be that without a wife and kids they had more time.</p>
<p>But, whatever it is, gay people have contributed more than their share.  And it would be, in my opinion, foolish to take steps to eliminate homosexuality.  We cannot be certain that by doing so we would not also be eliminating a significant portion of future contributions.</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/06/25/science-of-gaydar-open-forum/#comment-5891</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 20:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jag,

Unless that frustrated heterosexual man wants to try being gay.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jag,</p>
<p>Unless that frustrated heterosexual man wants to try being gay.</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/06/25/science-of-gaydar-open-forum/#comment-5890</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That most genuises are gay???   Isn&#039;t that what you assert?  And I think those that are gay are just mentioned more than the others.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That most genuises are gay???   Isn&#8217;t that what you assert?  And I think those that are gay are just mentioned more than the others.</p>
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		By: jag		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/06/25/science-of-gaydar-open-forum/#comment-5889</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jag]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Drowssap,



I think you missed the fundamental issue that homosexuality is not a disease or an illness...do you ever call in &quot;gay&quot; to work?  Therefore talks of &quot;curing&quot; homosexuality are pretty off-base. If you are heterosexual (which, you may not be), think about what it would take to make you gay. Orientational shift would work both ways...not just in one direction.



So...why not get a heterosexually frustrated man, and help make him gay? It&#039;s unethical...as it is the other way around.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drowssap,</p>
<p>I think you missed the fundamental issue that homosexuality is not a disease or an illness&#8230;do you ever call in &#8220;gay&#8221; to work?  Therefore talks of &#8220;curing&#8221; homosexuality are pretty off-base. If you are heterosexual (which, you may not be), think about what it would take to make you gay. Orientational shift would work both ways&#8230;not just in one direction.</p>
<p>So&#8230;why not get a heterosexually frustrated man, and help make him gay? It&#8217;s unethical&#8230;as it is the other way around.</p>
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		By: Lynn David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah... same idea, it&#039;s been around for a while and the OSHU sheep study found much the same thing when studying hypothalami of sheep.



I don&#039;t know why you&#039;re into the WebArchive of Erik Holland&#039;s site, it&#039;s still online and updated:

http://www.amazinginfoonhomosexuals.com/

And Holland is nothing more than an individual with an idea trying to sell a book in which he reviews the literatuure in a way which backs up his ideas.   Holland has a wierd mix of ideas.  It&#039;s biological, but gays aren&#039;t &quot;by design.&quot;   And from there he follows the AFA line or something like that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230; same idea, it&#8217;s been around for a while and the OSHU sheep study found much the same thing when studying hypothalami of sheep.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why you&#8217;re into the WebArchive of Erik Holland&#8217;s site, it&#8217;s still online and updated:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazinginfoonhomosexuals.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.amazinginfoonhomosexuals.com/</a></p>
<p>And Holland is nothing more than an individual with an idea trying to sell a book in which he reviews the literatuure in a way which backs up his ideas.   Holland has a wierd mix of ideas.  It&#8217;s biological, but gays aren&#8217;t &#8220;by design.&#8221;   And from there he follows the AFA line or something like that.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/06/25/science-of-gaydar-open-forum/#comment-5887</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Drowsap...



Just a hint for ya.  If the home page claims that the &quot;&lt;i&gt;core issues of interest to anyone interested in homosexuality&lt;/i&gt;&quot; are &quot;&lt;i&gt;the sexual behavior of homosexuals and mental health issues concerning homosexuality&lt;/i&gt;&quot; you can be pretty sure that it isn&#039;t going to be discussing issues of discrimination or equality under the law.



In fact, you can rest pretty sure that Paul Cameron would feel right at home.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drowsap&#8230;</p>
<p>Just a hint for ya.  If the home page claims that the &#8220;<i>core issues of interest to anyone interested in homosexuality</i>&#8221; are &#8220;<i>the sexual behavior of homosexuals and mental health issues concerning homosexuality</i>&#8221; you can be pretty sure that it isn&#8217;t going to be discussing issues of discrimination or equality under the law.</p>
<p>In fact, you can rest pretty sure that Paul Cameron would feel right at home.  🙂</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/06/25/science-of-gaydar-open-forum/#comment-5886</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mary,



Yes indeed there are.  No one is disputing that.  I guess I&#039;m failing to understand your point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary,</p>
<p>Yes indeed there are.  No one is disputing that.  I guess I&#8217;m failing to understand your point.</p>
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		By: Drowssap		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/06/25/science-of-gaydar-open-forum/#comment-5885</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drowssap]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mary



I think what Tim is saying is that the confluence of events that make homosexuals might also spit out a few extra geniuses.  That idea might have some merit.



Autism looks more like an autoimmune disease with every scientific finding.  The injury sets off an internal repair process that occasionally gives people amazing gifts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary</p>
<p>I think what Tim is saying is that the confluence of events that make homosexuals might also spit out a few extra geniuses.  That idea might have some merit.</p>
<p>Autism looks more like an autoimmune disease with every scientific finding.  The injury sets off an internal repair process that occasionally gives people amazing gifts.</p>
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