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	Comments on: PFLAG reaction to the Chicago Trib article	</title>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/06/12/pflag-reaction-to-the-chicago-trib-article/#comment-5603</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK.  I think I see your point.



I&#039;m a bit inclined to credit Cepek for not going down the &quot;this doesn&#039;t work for anyone&quot; route.  Instead he credited 8 of the 202 who reported success without &quot;slips&quot;.



But I can see how his language surrounding the S&#038;S study was slanted in an anti-reorientation direction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK.  I think I see your point.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a bit inclined to credit Cepek for not going down the &#8220;this doesn&#8217;t work for anyone&#8221; route.  Instead he credited 8 of the 202 who reported success without &#8220;slips&#8221;.</p>
<p>But I can see how his language surrounding the S&amp;S study was slanted in an anti-reorientation direction.</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My problem with his use of the study is that he calls it &quot;a peer reviewed assessment of the practice.&quot; Well, it was peer reviewed (as was my review of the practices in the same issue), but to call it an assessment of the practice without offering other peer reviewed assessments of the practice is pure spin.



It would be akin to the correct objections to the use of Spitzer to say &quot;the practice&quot; is uniformly helpful. If Cepek had said, good for this guy but I want to caution readers that for some it can be harmful, then fine. As I have been calling social conservatives to be more complete and tentative in their statements I would call PFLAG to the same position.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem with his use of the study is that he calls it &#8220;a peer reviewed assessment of the practice.&#8221; Well, it was peer reviewed (as was my review of the practices in the same issue), but to call it an assessment of the practice without offering other peer reviewed assessments of the practice is pure spin.</p>
<p>It would be akin to the correct objections to the use of Spitzer to say &#8220;the practice&#8221; is uniformly helpful. If Cepek had said, good for this guy but I want to caution readers that for some it can be harmful, then fine. As I have been calling social conservatives to be more complete and tentative in their statements I would call PFLAG to the same position.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/06/12/pflag-reaction-to-the-chicago-trib-article/#comment-5601</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Warren,



I can see how Salzer misused Shidlo and Schroeder.

But did Cepak misquote or misstate the study?



I am aware of some of its flaws, particularly that it isn&#039;t representative - though considering that Spitzer had such a hard time finding participants, finding 26 successes may not have been that underrepresentative.  I tend not to rely too heavily on S&#038;S.



...



It does look like some of our buddies commented there.  I think Swissalps was there calling himself &quot;Critic of PFLAG&quot;, unless there&#039;s someone else out there who uses the term &quot;H&#038;L&quot;.



And can Viva - who calls for quarantine - be Phillips, I wonder?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren,</p>
<p>I can see how Salzer misused Shidlo and Schroeder.</p>
<p>But did Cepak misquote or misstate the study?</p>
<p>I am aware of some of its flaws, particularly that it isn&#8217;t representative &#8211; though considering that Spitzer had such a hard time finding participants, finding 26 successes may not have been that underrepresentative.  I tend not to rely too heavily on S&amp;S.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>It does look like some of our buddies commented there.  I think Swissalps was there calling himself &#8220;Critic of PFLAG&#8221;, unless there&#8217;s someone else out there who uses the term &#8220;H&amp;L&#8221;.</p>
<p>And can Viva &#8211; who calls for quarantine &#8211; be Phillips, I wonder?</p>
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		By: Grady		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder if all those groups who jump on Exodus will now jump on PFLAG for misuse of research. If Shidlo and Schroeder is all they got, then they don&#039;t have much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if all those groups who jump on Exodus will now jump on PFLAG for misuse of research. If Shidlo and Schroeder is all they got, then they don&#8217;t have much.</p>
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