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		By: Phillips		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/06/05/what-did-the-aapa-really-say/#comment-5340</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 20:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oops, I meant to post this before my other post:



I wouldn&#039;t put much faith in mental health organizations. They&#039;ve been high jacked by &#039;gay&#039; activists ever since the APA (Psychological) redefined &#039;homosexuality&#039; in &#039;73. &#039;Gays&#039; realized they wouldn&#039;t get anywhere trying to change religion from within, so they high jacked &#039;science&#039;. Mental health organizations have long sought for public authority over the church on soft issues as intangible as morality. They&#039;re the church of secularism, however oxymoronic.



The same has happened to the scientific community ever since Darwin discovered micro-evolution and tried to extrapolate it into the wild speculation of macro-evolution. Atheism dominates the scientific community, though the theory has become so devoid of any evidence that they have rely on printing lies in textbooks and using intimidation on their pupils and peers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, I meant to post this before my other post:</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t put much faith in mental health organizations. They&#8217;ve been high jacked by &#8216;gay&#8217; activists ever since the APA (Psychological) redefined &#8216;homosexuality&#8217; in &#8217;73. &#8216;Gays&#8217; realized they wouldn&#8217;t get anywhere trying to change religion from within, so they high jacked &#8216;science&#8217;. Mental health organizations have long sought for public authority over the church on soft issues as intangible as morality. They&#8217;re the church of secularism, however oxymoronic.</p>
<p>The same has happened to the scientific community ever since Darwin discovered micro-evolution and tried to extrapolate it into the wild speculation of macro-evolution. Atheism dominates the scientific community, though the theory has become so devoid of any evidence that they have rely on printing lies in textbooks and using intimidation on their pupils and peers.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 21:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And from the Velveteen Rabbit:



&lt;i&gt;There was once a velveteen rabbit, and in the beginning he was really splendid. He was fat and bunchy, as a rabbit should be; his coat was spotted brown and white, he had real thread whiskers, and his ears were lined with pink sateen.&lt;/i&gt;



What does that have to do with the APA?  Oh, nothing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And from the Velveteen Rabbit:</p>
<p><i>There was once a velveteen rabbit, and in the beginning he was really splendid. He was fat and bunchy, as a rabbit should be; his coat was spotted brown and white, he had real thread whiskers, and his ears were lined with pink sateen.</i></p>
<p>What does that have to do with the APA?  Oh, nothing.</p>
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		By: Phillips		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/06/05/what-did-the-aapa-really-say/#comment-5338</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 18:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oo, speaking of the APA&#039;s about-face, look at what they used to say:



&quot;Fifteen years into the epidemic the American Psychiatric Association Press reports that â€œ30 percent of all 20-year-old gay men will be HIV positive or dead of AIDS by the time they are age 30&quot; - Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth, Jeffrey Satinover, M.D.



and from the same book:



&quot;The impact of homosexuality on politics is obvious. Gay activists, working closely with mental health professionals for the past twenty years, have successfully shaped and promoted a new consensus on homosexuality that is a potent political force. This consensus is composed of three key propositions that fit the so-called â€œbio-psycho-socialâ€ model of mental functioning that is now in vogue. As the propositions have slowly spread throughout society, people use them to demand that all sectors of society â€” including religious institutions morally opposed to homosexual practice â€” treat practicing homosexuals in exactly the same way as active heterosexuals.&quot;



&quot;AIDS was certainly unexpected and more horrifying than anyone could have imagined. And yet to an extent, it should not have been unexpected. For in the ten years or so before the bright young men began turning up in major medical centers with alarming purple splotches and rare infections, the scientific literature showed a startling increase in gay-related conditions: hepatitis B causing sometimes fatal liver collapse; bowel parasites causing systemic infections rare outside the homosexual community; immune dysfunction less severe than AIDS would prove to be, but serious nonetheless. The medical community understood that as the influence of the 1960s&#039; counterculture had lifted all constraint on human sexuality â€” not just the homosexual variety â€” so too had it lifted the constraints on every imaginable form of sexually related illness.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oo, speaking of the APA&#8217;s about-face, look at what they used to say:</p>
<p>&#8220;Fifteen years into the epidemic the American Psychiatric Association Press reports that â€œ30 percent of all 20-year-old gay men will be HIV positive or dead of AIDS by the time they are age 30&#8221; &#8211; Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth, Jeffrey Satinover, M.D.</p>
<p>and from the same book:</p>
<p>&#8220;The impact of homosexuality on politics is obvious. Gay activists, working closely with mental health professionals for the past twenty years, have successfully shaped and promoted a new consensus on homosexuality that is a potent political force. This consensus is composed of three key propositions that fit the so-called â€œbio-psycho-socialâ€ model of mental functioning that is now in vogue. As the propositions have slowly spread throughout society, people use them to demand that all sectors of society â€” including religious institutions morally opposed to homosexual practice â€” treat practicing homosexuals in exactly the same way as active heterosexuals.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;AIDS was certainly unexpected and more horrifying than anyone could have imagined. And yet to an extent, it should not have been unexpected. For in the ten years or so before the bright young men began turning up in major medical centers with alarming purple splotches and rare infections, the scientific literature showed a startling increase in gay-related conditions: hepatitis B causing sometimes fatal liver collapse; bowel parasites causing systemic infections rare outside the homosexual community; immune dysfunction less severe than AIDS would prove to be, but serious nonetheless. The medical community understood that as the influence of the 1960s&#8217; counterculture had lifted all constraint on human sexuality â€” not just the homosexual variety â€” so too had it lifted the constraints on every imaginable form of sexually related illness.&#8221;</p>
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		By: howller		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 00:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is an additional comma in the earlier entry, which may change the meaning somewhat, indicating that the AAPA only opposes the reorientation therapy which is based on a priori assumptions. The text above seems to indicate that attempts at reorientation are themselves based on such assumptions. Which is it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an additional comma in the earlier entry, which may change the meaning somewhat, indicating that the AAPA only opposes the reorientation therapy which is based on a priori assumptions. The text above seems to indicate that attempts at reorientation are themselves based on such assumptions. Which is it?</p>
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		By: Lynn David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m confusled.... isn&#039;t all reparative therapy based in the idea that homosexuality is a disorder resulting from something that needs to be &quot;repaired.&quot;    So how can you repair something that ain&#039;t broken?   How can &quot;some&quot; reparative therapies then be allowed?



It seems like most of the Christian therapists are saying that if the patient asks for it, then we can give it - the old reparative therapies based in the idea that homosexuality is a mental disorder - to them.



One thing to ask... if an AAPA member does believe they can refer a patient to someone  for reparative therapy - if they are asked for it..... then can one, an AAPA member, refer a patient to an APA member who is not in alignment with the APA guidelines.   Does cross-professional ethics come into play?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confusled&#8230;. isn&#8217;t all reparative therapy based in the idea that homosexuality is a disorder resulting from something that needs to be &#8220;repaired.&#8221;    So how can you repair something that ain&#8217;t broken?   How can &#8220;some&#8221; reparative therapies then be allowed?</p>
<p>It seems like most of the Christian therapists are saying that if the patient asks for it, then we can give it &#8211; the old reparative therapies based in the idea that homosexuality is a mental disorder &#8211; to them.</p>
<p>One thing to ask&#8230; if an AAPA member does believe they can refer a patient to someone  for reparative therapy &#8211; if they are asked for it&#8230;.. then can one, an AAPA member, refer a patient to an APA member who is not in alignment with the APA guidelines.   Does cross-professional ethics come into play?</p>
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