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		By: Phillips		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/05/16/paul-cameron-no-super-rights/#comment-4929</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was also under Ronald Reagan that AIDS funding was tipped over to gays.



..but thanks for labeling me a hate-mongerer anyway. His quote stands.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was also under Ronald Reagan that AIDS funding was tipped over to gays.</p>
<p>..but thanks for labeling me a hate-mongerer anyway. His quote stands.</p>
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		By: gordo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 01:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tim - I suspect your noble efforts are wasted on this troll.  Nevertheless, it&#039;s the best entertainment I&#039;ve had all week.  Thanks for taking the time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim &#8211; I suspect your noble efforts are wasted on this troll.  Nevertheless, it&#8217;s the best entertainment I&#8217;ve had all week.  Thanks for taking the time.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 21:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They&#039;re only rights when they apply to people that we like, ya know.



Cuz Ronald Reagan knew that in 1978 when he opposed the Briggs Initiative.  In fact, his opposition is credited for it failing to pass.  And, of course, this is the same Reagan who hosted the first gay couple to stay in the White House.  And the one whose daughter reported:



&lt;i&gt;My father gently explained that Mr. Hudson didn&#039;t really have a lot of experience kissing women; in fact, he would much prefer to be kissing a man. This was said in the same tone that would be used if he had been telling me about people with different colored eyes, and I accepted without question that this whole kissing thing wasn&#039;t reserved just for men and women.&lt;/i&gt;



Sorry, Phillips.  But the real living breathing Ronald Reagan (not the imaginary icon of all things conservative) wasn&#039;t hateful to gay folks.  He had gay friends.  And while he may not have been a big supporter of equality, he also opposed the sort of discrimination that you champion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re only rights when they apply to people that we like, ya know.</p>
<p>Cuz Ronald Reagan knew that in 1978 when he opposed the Briggs Initiative.  In fact, his opposition is credited for it failing to pass.  And, of course, this is the same Reagan who hosted the first gay couple to stay in the White House.  And the one whose daughter reported:</p>
<p><i>My father gently explained that Mr. Hudson didn&#8217;t really have a lot of experience kissing women; in fact, he would much prefer to be kissing a man. This was said in the same tone that would be used if he had been telling me about people with different colored eyes, and I accepted without question that this whole kissing thing wasn&#8217;t reserved just for men and women.</i></p>
<p>Sorry, Phillips.  But the real living breathing Ronald Reagan (not the imaginary icon of all things conservative) wasn&#8217;t hateful to gay folks.  He had gay friends.  And while he may not have been a big supporter of equality, he also opposed the sort of discrimination that you champion.</p>
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		By: Phillips		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/05/16/paul-cameron-no-super-rights/#comment-4926</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 14:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The point is that they&#039;re not rights. See Reagan quote.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is that they&#8217;re not rights. See Reagan quote.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/05/16/paul-cameron-no-super-rights/#comment-4925</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 18:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;but in concern to your pointsâ€¦&lt;/i&gt;



One would usually think that what follows has SOMETHING to do with the points.  But, well, what does one expect from Cameron/supporter?



blah blah blah pedophile, blah blah blah AIDS, blah blah blah promiscuity and public sex.  Nothing whatsoever about rights v. &quot;super rights&quot; (or even super duper rights).  Sigh.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>but in concern to your pointsâ€¦</i></p>
<p>One would usually think that what follows has SOMETHING to do with the points.  But, well, what does one expect from Cameron/supporter?</p>
<p>blah blah blah pedophile, blah blah blah AIDS, blah blah blah promiscuity and public sex.  Nothing whatsoever about rights v. &#8220;super rights&#8221; (or even super duper rights).  Sigh.</p>
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		By: Phillips		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/05/16/paul-cameron-no-super-rights/#comment-4924</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phillips]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FRI has a National Advisory Board. I don&#039;t know who&#039;s on it, I&#039;ve only come accross a few names in FRI&#039;s newsletters, but Cal Skinner, former Illinois state house member, was the FRI supporter who tried and failed to pass legislation for funding aimed at prison rape. He was one of a handful of legislators who have tried to do such a thing, though most attempts have failed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FRI has a National Advisory Board. I don&#8217;t know who&#8217;s on it, I&#8217;ve only come accross a few names in FRI&#8217;s newsletters, but Cal Skinner, former Illinois state house member, was the FRI supporter who tried and failed to pass legislation for funding aimed at prison rape. He was one of a handful of legislators who have tried to do such a thing, though most attempts have failed.</p>
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		By: Phillips		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phillips]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No, but I&#039;ll have one soon of a radio debate in Ireland between Cameron and a rep. of the national Irish organization of students for diversity. The rep. apparently got a little squeamish with the new findings, even though he&#039;d come prepared with the critiques.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, but I&#8217;ll have one soon of a radio debate in Ireland between Cameron and a rep. of the national Irish organization of students for diversity. The rep. apparently got a little squeamish with the new findings, even though he&#8217;d come prepared with the critiques.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;some legislatures - including some on FRIs board &lt;/i&gt;



Legislators on FRI&#039;s board?  Please, Phillips, do tell who they are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>some legislatures &#8211; including some on FRIs board </i></p>
<p>Legislators on FRI&#8217;s board?  Please, Phillips, do tell who they are.</p>
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		By: Boo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m glad you decided not to leave, Phillips. Your comedy stylings would be missed. Imagine, a defender of Paul Cameron expecting to be taken seriously when talking about research!



Do you have a cd?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you decided not to leave, Phillips. Your comedy stylings would be missed. Imagine, a defender of Paul Cameron expecting to be taken seriously when talking about research!</p>
<p>Do you have a cd?</p>
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		By: Phillips		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 20:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually, Tim, I was talking about the pedophilia issue, but in concern to your points...



1) The burden society&#039;s tax dollars with a public health issue.



2) Considering agendas, the culture, and research your community is known for in the area of being attracted to the young, as well as the research that shows things like you being more apt to skip work, have health issues, etc., employers and school boards should have the right of discernment.



3) It&#039;s not equality, it&#039;s a devious lifestyle that you are seeking to label as an alternative.



&quot;The greatest single victory of the gay movement over the past decade has been to shift the debate from behavior to identity, thus forcing opponents into a position where they can be seen as attacking the civil rights of homosexual citizens rather than attacking specific and (as the see it) antisocial behavior. President Reagan apparently recognizes this distinction: before his election he was quoted as saying, &#039;My criticism of the gay rights movement is that it isn&#039;t asking for civil rights, it is asking for a recognition and acceptance of an alternative life style which I do not believe society can condone, nor can I.&#039;&quot; - The Homosexualization of America: the Americanization of the Homosexual



4) Ever read &quot;My Country, My Right to Serve?&quot; While aimed at promoting you in the military, it really only details a gross amount of rape, sexual recruitment and insubordination among the &#039;gays&#039; it covers. AIDS is 5 times more prevalent in prison (some legislatures - including some on FRIs board - have tried and failed to bass legislation aimed at prison rape), do we really want this in our military as well?



5) Poor kids. A typical foster case in Vermont: Though the parents strenuously objected, their hard to handle child was given to a gay couple. When the boy complained to the Department of the couple asking him innapropriate question, the Department concluded that it was a lie and that the parent&#039;s had coached the boy to say it. Not two weeks later the 16 year old ran away to a local hospital when the &quot;family&quot; was out shopping in order to escape the couple after they had already had their way with him. (Rutland Herald, 6/21/02) Research shows that gays are much, much more likely to molest, as well as lead violent lives.



6) Gay marriage is just the next step for the gay movement to receive public recognition. Reserach shows most gays prefer to live alone and have multiple parterns, even when they bother to enter into marriage.



7) Interesting you mention &#039;cubicle&#039;, was that &quot;Sparticus&quot; that was a guide to public rest areas, parks, etc. that have been commadeered by gays?



&#039;Super&#039; rights, indeed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Tim, I was talking about the pedophilia issue, but in concern to your points&#8230;</p>
<p>1) The burden society&#8217;s tax dollars with a public health issue.</p>
<p>2) Considering agendas, the culture, and research your community is known for in the area of being attracted to the young, as well as the research that shows things like you being more apt to skip work, have health issues, etc., employers and school boards should have the right of discernment.</p>
<p>3) It&#8217;s not equality, it&#8217;s a devious lifestyle that you are seeking to label as an alternative.</p>
<p>&#8220;The greatest single victory of the gay movement over the past decade has been to shift the debate from behavior to identity, thus forcing opponents into a position where they can be seen as attacking the civil rights of homosexual citizens rather than attacking specific and (as the see it) antisocial behavior. President Reagan apparently recognizes this distinction: before his election he was quoted as saying, &#8216;My criticism of the gay rights movement is that it isn&#8217;t asking for civil rights, it is asking for a recognition and acceptance of an alternative life style which I do not believe society can condone, nor can I.'&#8221; &#8211; The Homosexualization of America: the Americanization of the Homosexual</p>
<p>4) Ever read &#8220;My Country, My Right to Serve?&#8221; While aimed at promoting you in the military, it really only details a gross amount of rape, sexual recruitment and insubordination among the &#8216;gays&#8217; it covers. AIDS is 5 times more prevalent in prison (some legislatures &#8211; including some on FRIs board &#8211; have tried and failed to bass legislation aimed at prison rape), do we really want this in our military as well?</p>
<p>5) Poor kids. A typical foster case in Vermont: Though the parents strenuously objected, their hard to handle child was given to a gay couple. When the boy complained to the Department of the couple asking him innapropriate question, the Department concluded that it was a lie and that the parent&#8217;s had coached the boy to say it. Not two weeks later the 16 year old ran away to a local hospital when the &#8220;family&#8221; was out shopping in order to escape the couple after they had already had their way with him. (Rutland Herald, 6/21/02) Research shows that gays are much, much more likely to molest, as well as lead violent lives.</p>
<p>6) Gay marriage is just the next step for the gay movement to receive public recognition. Reserach shows most gays prefer to live alone and have multiple parterns, even when they bother to enter into marriage.</p>
<p>7) Interesting you mention &#8216;cubicle&#8217;, was that &#8220;Sparticus&#8221; that was a guide to public rest areas, parks, etc. that have been commadeered by gays?</p>
<p>&#8216;Super&#8217; rights, indeed.</p>
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