Comments on: Only the gay die young? Part 6 – Exodus International statement

By: NickC

NickC — Tue, 01 May 2007 21:18:32 +0000

Going back to the general subject of the Camerons’ research, whether gays die young, it looks as if we homos are not the only people with abberant, deviant traits who are dropping like flies:

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) – A study suggests that women who are left-handed have a higher risk of dying, particularly from cancer and cerebrovascular disease – damage to an artery in the brain or an artery that supplies blood to the brain.

While it could be a chance finding and the evidence is far from conclusive, numerous reports have associated left-handedness with various disorders and, in general, a shorter life span, Dutch researchers note in their report in the journal Epidemiology.

“Left-handers are reported to be underrepresented in the older age groups, although such findings are still much debated,” write Dr. Made K. Ramadhani and colleagues from University Medical Center Utrecht. It is estimated that about 1 in 10 people are lefties.

By: Michael Bussee

Michael Bussee — Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:48:42 +0000

Mary: I completely agree with you: “As a ministry and not a research arm of the ex gay issue, they should refrain from posting research.” They could avoid SO much trouble — if they would only adopt this as one of their basic operational guidelines!

I would like to add: “As a ministry, and not a political arm of the ex-gay issue, we refrain from engaging in politics.” EXODUS began as a ministry — an outreach to bring hurtiing gay people into a personal realtionship with a loving God, and with enough faith, maybe someday we might turn out straight.

No one I have ever met really did. But, it was still a pretty good idea. At least al lot of people learned about God. EXODUS was a ministry. It should have always remained so.

By: Jim Burroway

Jim Burroway — Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:00:09 +0000

I would also observe that the FAQ in question had a blank footnote with a comment indicated that they still needed to find a reference? Who posts something like that anyway?

Why was the footnote blank? The statistics obviously came from somewhere. Whoever wrote that “fact” on that web page obviously got it from another source because he/she copied it quite accurately. And yet, the blank footnote.

The ONLY reason I can imagine for leaving the footnote blank was because they knew Cameron’s name wouldn’t fly. And whoever authorized publishing that web page with the blank footnote appeared to believe it was more important to publish a damaging statistic than it was to publish an accurate, substantiated one.

By: Lynn David

Lynn David — Sat, 28 Apr 2007 06:24:46 +0000

Well homogenic sex is a sin, or for some having a homosexual orientation is itself sin or evidence of sin/evil/demon-possession. A conscious choice is generally associated with sin, a tendency to sin even if biological is no excuse. Except we’re talking about sexuality and its interplay with one’s need for intimacy. Somehow having that intimate relationship with Jesus doesn’t fill in for real human contact and love when you cannot change your orientation and must remain celibate. And it doesn’t help that the people who are telling you all of this claim their intimate relationship with Jesus does themselves all sorts of good… but they go home to their wives or husbands for that which even Jesus cannot provide.

By: Michael Bussee

Michael Bussee — Sat, 28 Apr 2007 02:27:40 +0000

It’s not as though EXODUS has not been warned about ill-conceived affiliations and dubious “researchers”. For example, for years people have been cautioning them to not to affiliate with NARTH — because of its obvious, unscientific bias, off-the-wall articles and wacky “advisors” — but the relationship continues. Isn’t one of the spiritual gifts “discernment”?