The goals of organizations like GLSEN and PFLAG are to end discrimination and bigotry towards gays. The idea is to promote discussion and understanding that being gay is more than just a bunch of “detestable” sex acts. To break down stereotypes and give gay students, and their friends support.

What are the goals of your “opposing views” be?

To Ken & Timothy Kincaid:

You already know that I believe that attraction is a moot point because even if it doesn’t change, a he can become celibate or have sex with women instead. It’s about ending H&L behaviors even if attractions don’t change.

But addressing your points about sexual harassment. Sexual harassment is more than just making unwanted advances to a student or employee. It has also been defined as creating a hostile work envt. & that incl. forcing people to hear to what you have to say about sex.

GLSEN & PFLAG do more than just say that they exist. They have their own bias. PFLAG & GLSEN also tell pupils that H&L behaviors are OK & when some1 who thinks H&L behaviors are forced to hear it, it’s sexual harassment.

What if some1 who is against H&L behaviors started forcing pupils to listen to my view that homo&lesbian activities are bad & that even if a homosexual’s attractions don’t change, it’s best to change their behaviors to either straight behavior or no sexual behavior-celibate?

You don’t consider what PFLAG & GLSEN say to be sexual harassment because you don’t see anything wrong with H&L activities. But for those who do see something wrong with H&L activities for whatever reasons whether it’s religious (I’m not a religious person) do find it to be harassing when we’re forced to hear that H&L activities are OK & not allowed to give opposing views.

I see that you ignored my earlier posting. Nonetheless, let me address your latest thoughts:

I agree that parents should promote within their children an ethic that encourages appropriate sexuality. For me, that would include discouraging sexual behavior in teens regardless of the gender of the other party. On this I think we all share the same sentiment – to some degree.

However, rather that pretend that same-sex attraction does not exist, I would absolutely want to know to what sex my child was attracted. Believe me, that would definitely play a part in whether he or she had sleep-overs.

Also, when it comes to the facts of the matter, you seem to be woefully inadequately informed. On the Day of Silence, the students were not being forced to listen to GLSEN. There was no compulsory pro-gay message. There was voluntary participation by other students and sometimes teachers. There are a lot of news stories about this – check them out and perhaps your comments will better reflect the facts.

And you really should familiarize yourself better with sexual harassment laws. Saying that gay people exist and that they should be treated with decency has nothing to do with sexual harassment. Simply because the word “sexual” is in common does not mean they are related.

Sexual harassment laws protect individuals from inappropriate sexual conduct in the work place. If a gay person were coming on to a co-worker that might be relevant. But being exposed to opinions that differ from your own is not harassment.

Though I disagree, I appreciate your opinions, SwissAlps. But sometimes they would be better presented if they were consistent with the facts.

Specifically what behaviours are you referring too? holding hands? dancing? kissing?

As far as explicit sexual behaviours (oral sex, intercourse etc) I would agree that teens should probably be discouraged from engaging in such behaviours regardless of the gender of the other person.

How is it bad to teach that gays exist? How is it bad to teach that they can and do form stable relationships and families? How is it bad to teach that disparaging someone because of who they love is just as bad as doing it because of the color of their skin, or the accent they have, or who they pray to?

It’s sexual harassment to force people who consider H&L behaviors bad to hear 1 sided views, because it creates a hostile envt. by not tolerating views of those who’re against these behaviors. What if a school forced pupils who regard swinging as bad, to hear 1 sided views of men who have sex with many women?

The students who carried placards saying that sodomy is a sin are doing it in reaction to being forced to listen to GLSEN. They must bring sexual harassment lawsuits against GLSEN, because schools exist to teach pupils math, science & history. I’m not saying that schools present views of those who are against H&L behaviors, but there’s s time & place to discuss topics like sex & schools & workplaces aren’t where to do it. If you want to discuss it, do it outside work.