Comments on: How often does sexual orientation modification occur? https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/02/19/how-often-does-sexual-orientation-modification-occur/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:22:29 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: Michael Bussee https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/02/19/how-often-does-sexual-orientation-modification-occur/#comment-3784 Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:22:29 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/02/19/how-often-does-sexual-orientation-modification-occur/#comment-3784 JAG: Good luck. Proponents of “change” therapies HATE having to define terms.

]]> By: jag https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/02/19/how-often-does-sexual-orientation-modification-occur/#comment-3783 Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:15:20 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/02/19/how-often-does-sexual-orientation-modification-occur/#comment-3783 I think a very basic question that needs to be answered is one of operational definition. What exactly is considered to be “change” or “adjustment?” Have these understandings changed over the span of time of this data?

So many problems with this…where to start?

]]> By: pam https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/02/19/how-often-does-sexual-orientation-modification-occur/#comment-3782 Thu, 22 Feb 2007 03:54:35 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/02/19/how-often-does-sexual-orientation-modification-occur/#comment-3782 I guess the question remains…how “relative” is all this change? Are there certain aspects to it that can’t possibly be measured scientifically? If so, what then? While I don’t reccomend anyone getting married to “marie antoinette”, I will say that I’d not trade my own experiences and am able to find “joy” within the “change” I’ve been afforded by having been in such a marriage. yes, this is all a bit “tongue in cheek”…but I’m serious as well.

love and grace,

pam

]]> By: Marty https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/02/19/how-often-does-sexual-orientation-modification-occur/#comment-3781 Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:52:52 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/02/19/how-often-does-sexual-orientation-modification-occur/#comment-3781 That’s a good comment Tim Kincaid.

I immediately think of “gay” episcopal bishop Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, whose ordination is at the center of the currently fracturing Anglican church.

Bishop Robinson participated in some amount of reorientation therapy, with some obvious success — having been “happily married” to a woman for 12 years, and fathering 2 children (i think that’s correct) with her.

Then, 12 years later, he split up his family, settled down with a man, and proceeded to split up his church.

I can only scratch my head, when asked “is he gay? is he straight? is he bisexual? whatever he is, or was, did he change over the course of time?” There’s more than enough factual evidence to answer YES to all of these questions. The only answer that seems to hold any weight at all is the answer he would give for himself.

For all we know, he might be Marie Antoinette. Maybe someone should ask him… 😉

]]> By: Warren https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/02/19/how-often-does-sexual-orientation-modification-occur/#comment-3780 Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:07:51 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/02/19/how-often-does-sexual-orientation-modification-occur/#comment-3780 Jim – I asked Dr. Cummings and he said that the Kaiser therapists did not do aversive therapy.

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