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	Comments on: Sexual identity therapy: An interview with Dr. Nicholas Cummings	</title>
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		By: jag		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ivan -



You seem to have difficulty understanding how anyone who is gay/lesbian could have a happy life...so I thought I would put myself out there and share mine.



I am a young academic with a tenure-track position at a liberal arts school in the northeast...I have a solid job, partner benefits, and live with a beautiful young professional woman who works in patent law. I couldn&#039;t be more in love. We&#039;ve been smitten with each other since meeting, and have a wonderful life - we work out every morning together at the gym, often bike to work into the city, are members of a local church,  have a dog and a place in an amazing loft - and spend our leisure time traveling both here and abroad.



I live a life absolutely blessed. Ivan, I can only wish you were this fortunate...and pray that everyone can experience the life that I have...even if just for a moment. I thank God for my health, my life, my love, and for making me exactly who I am.



Questions Ivan?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ivan &#8211;</p>
<p>You seem to have difficulty understanding how anyone who is gay/lesbian could have a happy life&#8230;so I thought I would put myself out there and share mine.</p>
<p>I am a young academic with a tenure-track position at a liberal arts school in the northeast&#8230;I have a solid job, partner benefits, and live with a beautiful young professional woman who works in patent law. I couldn&#8217;t be more in love. We&#8217;ve been smitten with each other since meeting, and have a wonderful life &#8211; we work out every morning together at the gym, often bike to work into the city, are members of a local church,  have a dog and a place in an amazing loft &#8211; and spend our leisure time traveling both here and abroad.</p>
<p>I live a life absolutely blessed. Ivan, I can only wish you were this fortunate&#8230;and pray that everyone can experience the life that I have&#8230;even if just for a moment. I thank God for my health, my life, my love, and for making me exactly who I am.</p>
<p>Questions Ivan?</p>
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		By: Ivan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Michael,



I think your last post, while poignant, may have missed my point. Anyhow, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s worth it for me to go over again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>I think your last post, while poignant, may have missed my point. Anyhow, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s worth it for me to go over again.</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To Ivan who said:  &quot;I mean I accept you are satisfied, if you say you are, and that as a gay man, youâ€™re psychologically well-adjusted like any heterosexual man.&quot;



Well, I wouldn&#039;t quite put it that way.  I know lots of straight men who are are not particularly well-adjusted psychologically.  What I mean is that I am happy with my work, my family, my lover, my hobbies, my church.  Somedays are rougher than others, but that&#039;s true of everyone.  Sexual orientation does not determine one&#039;s happiness or level of psychological adjustment.



All I mean is that I no longer feel bad about being gay.  I accept that I am, just as a straight man might accept that he is straight.



What offends me and angers me is NOT that someone might question whether or not I am &quot;truly happy&quot; -- as I have said, I have my highs and my lows just as every human being does.  What DOES offend and anger me are questions about &quot;cause&quot; from people who believe my sexuality is some sort of a disease that needs to be cured, or that I am demon possessed or not as &quot;healthy&quot; or &quot;moral&quot; as straights.



I angers me that I have been fired from two jobs -- simply for being gay.  It angers me that I was beaten and stabbed in the back my gang members who hated &quot;faggots&quot;.  It angers me that these same gang members murdered my best friend for being gay.  It offends me when a bullhorn toting &quot;Christian&quot; yells obscenities at my Mom as we walked into the Municipal Auditorium to hear the Gay Men&#039;s Chorus do a Christmas concert.  But you asking me if I am &quot;truly happy&quot; -- that I can live with.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Ivan who said:  &#8220;I mean I accept you are satisfied, if you say you are, and that as a gay man, youâ€™re psychologically well-adjusted like any heterosexual man.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, I wouldn&#8217;t quite put it that way.  I know lots of straight men who are are not particularly well-adjusted psychologically.  What I mean is that I am happy with my work, my family, my lover, my hobbies, my church.  Somedays are rougher than others, but that&#8217;s true of everyone.  Sexual orientation does not determine one&#8217;s happiness or level of psychological adjustment.</p>
<p>All I mean is that I no longer feel bad about being gay.  I accept that I am, just as a straight man might accept that he is straight.</p>
<p>What offends me and angers me is NOT that someone might question whether or not I am &#8220;truly happy&#8221; &#8212; as I have said, I have my highs and my lows just as every human being does.  What DOES offend and anger me are questions about &#8220;cause&#8221; from people who believe my sexuality is some sort of a disease that needs to be cured, or that I am demon possessed or not as &#8220;healthy&#8221; or &#8220;moral&#8221; as straights.</p>
<p>I angers me that I have been fired from two jobs &#8212; simply for being gay.  It angers me that I was beaten and stabbed in the back my gang members who hated &#8220;faggots&#8221;.  It angers me that these same gang members murdered my best friend for being gay.  It offends me when a bullhorn toting &#8220;Christian&#8221; yells obscenities at my Mom as we walked into the Municipal Auditorium to hear the Gay Men&#8217;s Chorus do a Christmas concert.  But you asking me if I am &#8220;truly happy&#8221; &#8212; that I can live with.</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eddy:  I am not making &quot;scientific&quot; claims about anyone else&#039;s sexuality.  I was only reporting my own experience of my earliest sexual awareness.  In first grade, I had very strong romantic, emotional and physical crushes on other boys.  These feelings were definitely sexual as well as emotional.  I didn&#039;t &quot;mis-interpret them as sexual&quot;.  They were sexual and I looked forward to any opportunity to &quot;play army with Tommy&quot;.  An erection is difficult to &quot;mis-interpret&quot;.  YES with males, NO with females.



On the other hand, when my daughter was in Kindergarten, she was already telling me about boys she thought were &quot;cute&quot; or &quot;nice&quot;.  She didn&#039;t &quot;misinterpret her feelings as sexual&quot; any more than I did.  We both just felt what we felt.  My attractions have remained constant over time and so have hers.  I&#039;m gay.  She&#039;s straight  -- and I will be the proud Dad who gets to give her away to a wonderful Christian man this April.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddy:  I am not making &#8220;scientific&#8221; claims about anyone else&#8217;s sexuality.  I was only reporting my own experience of my earliest sexual awareness.  In first grade, I had very strong romantic, emotional and physical crushes on other boys.  These feelings were definitely sexual as well as emotional.  I didn&#8217;t &#8220;mis-interpret them as sexual&#8221;.  They were sexual and I looked forward to any opportunity to &#8220;play army with Tommy&#8221;.  An erection is difficult to &#8220;mis-interpret&#8221;.  YES with males, NO with females.</p>
<p>On the other hand, when my daughter was in Kindergarten, she was already telling me about boys she thought were &#8220;cute&#8221; or &#8220;nice&#8221;.  She didn&#8217;t &#8220;misinterpret her feelings as sexual&#8221; any more than I did.  We both just felt what we felt.  My attractions have remained constant over time and so have hers.  I&#8217;m gay.  She&#8217;s straight  &#8212; and I will be the proud Dad who gets to give her away to a wonderful Christian man this April.</p>
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		By: Eddy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 03:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Michael,

I appreciate your comments about how we ought to talk more scientifically...how you were relentless with Ivan about the word &#039;satisfactory&#039;. Now, it&#039;s your turn.

I&#039;ve read at least 3 references to sexual direction before the age of reason (about yourself, about your daughter). I want clarification.

What was the sexual nature of your feelings at age 5 or 6 that you brought up in another recent thread? What was the sexual nature of your daughters feelings at age 6 or 7 that you also used to try to make that point? I&#039;m not trying to get explicit here but I do believe you are inserting a controversial and unproven premise into the discussions.  Therefore, I need clarification re the sexual direction feelings that you attribute to yourself and your daughter at those ages.

 How can I be sure that you both don&#039;t fit into my theory of childhood feelings and attractions being reinterpreted as sexual? (I believe they are both RE-intepreted and MIS-interpreted.) Please elaborate for the benefit of our scientific understanding.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>I appreciate your comments about how we ought to talk more scientifically&#8230;how you were relentless with Ivan about the word &#8216;satisfactory&#8217;. Now, it&#8217;s your turn.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read at least 3 references to sexual direction before the age of reason (about yourself, about your daughter). I want clarification.</p>
<p>What was the sexual nature of your feelings at age 5 or 6 that you brought up in another recent thread? What was the sexual nature of your daughters feelings at age 6 or 7 that you also used to try to make that point? I&#8217;m not trying to get explicit here but I do believe you are inserting a controversial and unproven premise into the discussions.  Therefore, I need clarification re the sexual direction feelings that you attribute to yourself and your daughter at those ages.</p>
<p> How can I be sure that you both don&#8217;t fit into my theory of childhood feelings and attractions being reinterpreted as sexual? (I believe they are both RE-intepreted and MIS-interpreted.) Please elaborate for the benefit of our scientific understanding.</p>
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