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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[This study reminded me of something shameful.  Something that I would seldom admit to in public.  But here it is.... I saw Porky&#039;s.  In the theater.  And paid money to do so.  (blush).



If I recall correctly, one of the girls got turned on by the smell in the men&#039;s locker room.  I guess that movie was ahead of its time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This study reminded me of something shameful.  Something that I would seldom admit to in public.  But here it is&#8230;. I saw Porky&#8217;s.  In the theater.  And paid money to do so.  (blush).</p>
<p>If I recall correctly, one of the girls got turned on by the smell in the men&#8217;s locker room.  I guess that movie was ahead of its time.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 19:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Michael,



That&#039;s an interesting notion.



And it does consider one something that seems seldom mentioned in the discussion about reorientation therapy - that just as there is an attraction to the same sex, there is also a repulsion (for lack of a better word) from the opposite sex.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s an interesting notion.</p>
<p>And it does consider one something that seems seldom mentioned in the discussion about reorientation therapy &#8211; that just as there is an attraction to the same sex, there is also a repulsion (for lack of a better word) from the opposite sex.</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s my theory on homosexuality.  I am stating it as a hyposthesis, not a fact.  As we have said, no one KNOWS what &quot;causes&quot; sexuality orientation, gay or straight.  I personally believe it is inate, instinictual, intrinsic-- part of a person&#039;s soul and being -- though not necessarily &quot;fixed&quot; or inflexible over one&#039;s lifetime.  Yes, I believe it is inborn -- just as hetersexual orienation is.



I know people get upset at the suggestion that it might be inborn and, no,  I cannot PROVE it, but I think that for the vast majority of people with &quot;SSA&quot;, this is the case.  I believe that environment can and does influence how the underlying orientation is expressed, but I think that the orientation itself is &quot;hard-wired&quot; -- just as it is for straights.



Here&#039;s how I think it works:  In many species, males and females display differing physical traits that signal to a potential mate &quot;I am the one you want&quot;.  Tail feathers, mating calls, the shape of a head of body, an enlarged rump, swollen genitals, a particular scent, the curves and breasts of a human female, the angularity, body hair, beard and gentalia of a human male, etc.



In heterosexuals, the male automatically &quot;hones in on&quot; those sexondaqry sex characteristcs of the female that signal that she is a potential mate.  The secondary sexual characteristcs of a male have the opposite effect -- &quot;&quot;I am like you.  I am NOT a potential mate&quot;.  This is all unconscious and automatic for the most part.  Like a compass needle, the straight person automatically points NORTH.  That&#039;s all &quot;orientation&quot; is -- the prevailing DIRECTION of the attraction.  It&#039;s primitive, built it.  &quot;Identity&quot; and &quot;lifestyle&quot; are not.



In homosexual men, the internal, automatic &quot;compass needle&quot; points SOUTH.  When I see the secondary sexual characteristics of a female, my brain gets the message:  &quot;very nice lookng but definitely NOT a potential mate&quot;.  I can appreciate the beauty, but I have NO attraction to female scent or shape.  On the other hand, when I pick up on a man&#039;s scent and shape, my brain pays attention instantaneously. It says, &quot;now HERE is a potential mate for you!&quot;  It&#039;s an unmistiakeable magnetism -- the same feeling straights get when they &quot;fall in love across a crowded room.&quot;



I strongly believe that someday we WILL understand this built in attraction to one gender or the other -- and that we will be able to demonstrate scientifically that it is an unlearned instinct -- part of the basic drive for human attachment.  Of course, even then, we will still be responsible for how we behave now matter how we feel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my theory on homosexuality.  I am stating it as a hyposthesis, not a fact.  As we have said, no one KNOWS what &#8220;causes&#8221; sexuality orientation, gay or straight.  I personally believe it is inate, instinictual, intrinsic&#8211; part of a person&#8217;s soul and being &#8212; though not necessarily &#8220;fixed&#8221; or inflexible over one&#8217;s lifetime.  Yes, I believe it is inborn &#8212; just as hetersexual orienation is.</p>
<p>I know people get upset at the suggestion that it might be inborn and, no,  I cannot PROVE it, but I think that for the vast majority of people with &#8220;SSA&#8221;, this is the case.  I believe that environment can and does influence how the underlying orientation is expressed, but I think that the orientation itself is &#8220;hard-wired&#8221; &#8212; just as it is for straights.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how I think it works:  In many species, males and females display differing physical traits that signal to a potential mate &#8220;I am the one you want&#8221;.  Tail feathers, mating calls, the shape of a head of body, an enlarged rump, swollen genitals, a particular scent, the curves and breasts of a human female, the angularity, body hair, beard and gentalia of a human male, etc.</p>
<p>In heterosexuals, the male automatically &#8220;hones in on&#8221; those sexondaqry sex characteristcs of the female that signal that she is a potential mate.  The secondary sexual characteristcs of a male have the opposite effect &#8212; &#8220;&#8221;I am like you.  I am NOT a potential mate&#8221;.  This is all unconscious and automatic for the most part.  Like a compass needle, the straight person automatically points NORTH.  That&#8217;s all &#8220;orientation&#8221; is &#8212; the prevailing DIRECTION of the attraction.  It&#8217;s primitive, built it.  &#8220;Identity&#8221; and &#8220;lifestyle&#8221; are not.</p>
<p>In homosexual men, the internal, automatic &#8220;compass needle&#8221; points SOUTH.  When I see the secondary sexual characteristics of a female, my brain gets the message:  &#8220;very nice lookng but definitely NOT a potential mate&#8221;.  I can appreciate the beauty, but I have NO attraction to female scent or shape.  On the other hand, when I pick up on a man&#8217;s scent and shape, my brain pays attention instantaneously. It says, &#8220;now HERE is a potential mate for you!&#8221;  It&#8217;s an unmistiakeable magnetism &#8212; the same feeling straights get when they &#8220;fall in love across a crowded room.&#8221;</p>
<p>I strongly believe that someday we WILL understand this built in attraction to one gender or the other &#8212; and that we will be able to demonstrate scientifically that it is an unlearned instinct &#8212; part of the basic drive for human attachment.  Of course, even then, we will still be responsible for how we behave now matter how we feel.</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe this is why I could never bring myself to see that Al Pacino movie...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this is why I could never bring myself to see that Al Pacino movie&#8230;</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JAG



Actually this study has already been done.  And, perhaps not surprisingly, lesbians were attracted to pheromones differently than were heterosexual women.  As Dr. Throckmorton discussed at that time, there does seem to be a brain response associated with orientation.



Where Warren and I might differ is as to whether the response is conditioned or instinctual.



http://www.healthcentral.com/newsdetail/408/532589.html



http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=24072]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JAG</p>
<p>Actually this study has already been done.  And, perhaps not surprisingly, lesbians were attracted to pheromones differently than were heterosexual women.  As Dr. Throckmorton discussed at that time, there does seem to be a brain response associated with orientation.</p>
<p>Where Warren and I might differ is as to whether the response is conditioned or instinctual.</p>
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