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		By: Warren		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/01/07/i-do-exist-to-be-retired/#comment-3214</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 05:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To be consistent, I would say that a same-sex couple married in a Christian church would view monogamy as their ethic. Denominations are nearing schism over such issues as you probably know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be consistent, I would say that a same-sex couple married in a Christian church would view monogamy as their ethic. Denominations are nearing schism over such issues as you probably know.</p>
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		By: jag		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/01/07/i-do-exist-to-be-retired/#comment-3213</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Warren -

If you believe &quot;a Christian sexual ethic limits sexual behavior to monogamous heterosexual marriage. I donâ€™t see being attracted as a sin,...&quot; Then, do you believe in same-sex relationships being productive if the parties are allowed to marry - or if they are married (under canadian law, their church, etc..)?



It would seem to me that if they are following their faith (reconstructionist Methodist, etc..) which interprets the Bible differently under their Christian faith, then a married same-sex couple would simply have to follow the same Christian ethics regarding sexual behavior as anyone else.



How do you view this?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren &#8211;</p>
<p>If you believe &#8220;a Christian sexual ethic limits sexual behavior to monogamous heterosexual marriage. I donâ€™t see being attracted as a sin,&#8230;&#8221; Then, do you believe in same-sex relationships being productive if the parties are allowed to marry &#8211; or if they are married (under canadian law, their church, etc..)?</p>
<p>It would seem to me that if they are following their faith (reconstructionist Methodist, etc..) which interprets the Bible differently under their Christian faith, then a married same-sex couple would simply have to follow the same Christian ethics regarding sexual behavior as anyone else.</p>
<p>How do you view this?</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/01/07/i-do-exist-to-be-retired/#comment-3212</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sarah - I believe one must distinguish between inclinations and attractions and behaviors. I believe a Christian sexual ethic limits sexual behavior to monogamous heterosexual marriage. I don&#039;t see being attracted as a sin, any more than being attracted to do anything that would miss the mark.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah &#8211; I believe one must distinguish between inclinations and attractions and behaviors. I believe a Christian sexual ethic limits sexual behavior to monogamous heterosexual marriage. I don&#8217;t see being attracted as a sin, any more than being attracted to do anything that would miss the mark.</p>
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		By: Sarah		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/01/07/i-do-exist-to-be-retired/#comment-3211</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dr. Throckmorton:  do you believe that homosexuality is a sin?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Throckmorton:  do you believe that homosexuality is a sin?</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/01/07/i-do-exist-to-be-retired/#comment-3210</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To Robbi Kenney:  Is it true that you once cautioned &quot;ex-gay&quot; ministries:  &quot;Know what you are offering. ... You are NOT offering heterosexuality... [but] the power to come into celibacy.&quot;  You are often quoted as saying this.



If it is true, it sounds similar to Dr. Throckmorton announcement that his &quot;current work does not emphasize changing sexual orientation as much as it does achieving congruence with chosen beliefs and values (which may or may not lead to change of attractions).  I do not want to misquote what Robbi reportedly said years ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Robbi Kenney:  Is it true that you once cautioned &#8220;ex-gay&#8221; ministries:  &#8220;Know what you are offering. &#8230; You are NOT offering heterosexuality&#8230; [but] the power to come into celibacy.&#8221;  You are often quoted as saying this.</p>
<p>If it is true, it sounds similar to Dr. Throckmorton announcement that his &#8220;current work does not emphasize changing sexual orientation as much as it does achieving congruence with chosen beliefs and values (which may or may not lead to change of attractions).  I do not want to misquote what Robbi reportedly said years ago.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/01/07/i-do-exist-to-be-retired/#comment-3209</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Noe says on his site that he does not regret what he said and he still believes in change. I donâ€™t see what Noe wrote as being a reason to retire the video.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Perhaps not.  However it might be a good reason to change the title.  Perhaps &lt;i&gt;I Still Believe Others May Exist&lt;/i&gt; is available.



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Noe says on his site that he does not regret what he said and he still believes in change. I donâ€™t see what Noe wrote as being a reason to retire the video.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps not.  However it might be a good reason to change the title.  Perhaps <i>I Still Believe Others May Exist</i> is available.</p>
<p>😉</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dr. T:  &quot;My current work does not emphasize changing sexual orientation as much as it does achieving congruence with chosen beliefs and values (which may or may not lead to change of attractions).&quot;



Now if only EXODUS and NARTH would adopt a similar honest and realistic approach.  I have enver objected to helping people live more loving, responsible, congruent and value-driven lives.  That&#039;s a worthy and &quot;do-able&quot; goal.  And if, in the process of growing up, they discover some attractions they didn&#039;t recognize before, that&#039;s certainly OK with me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. T:  &#8220;My current work does not emphasize changing sexual orientation as much as it does achieving congruence with chosen beliefs and values (which may or may not lead to change of attractions).&#8221;</p>
<p>Now if only EXODUS and NARTH would adopt a similar honest and realistic approach.  I have enver objected to helping people live more loving, responsible, congruent and value-driven lives.  That&#8217;s a worthy and &#8220;do-able&#8221; goal.  And if, in the process of growing up, they discover some attractions they didn&#8217;t recognize before, that&#8217;s certainly OK with me.</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/01/07/i-do-exist-to-be-retired/#comment-3207</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 04:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jon - Re: a publisher. I have had some contact today with an interested party. So who knows? I am not personally going to do another run but I will keep my options open.



Ck - I was aware of the statement and have it posted to the FAQs on this page. It will soon be a part of the I Do Exist website. Noe says on his site that he does not regret what he said and he still believes in change. I don&#039;t see what Noe wrote as being a reason to retire the video. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon &#8211; Re: a publisher. I have had some contact today with an interested party. So who knows? I am not personally going to do another run but I will keep my options open.</p>
<p>Ck &#8211; I was aware of the statement and have it posted to the FAQs on this page. It will soon be a part of the I Do Exist website. Noe says on his site that he does not regret what he said and he still believes in change. I don&#8217;t see what Noe wrote as being a reason to retire the video. </p>
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		By: Jon		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/01/07/i-do-exist-to-be-retired/#comment-3206</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dr throckmorton - maybe I don&#039;t understand the costs involved but I hate to see you do this. Could you get a publisher to do somrthing with it? Seems a shame to let this go...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr throckmorton &#8211; maybe I don&#8217;t understand the costs involved but I hate to see you do this. Could you get a publisher to do somrthing with it? Seems a shame to let this go&#8230;</p>
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