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	Comments on: Same-sex marriage conference at Catholic Univ. of America	</title>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry, my last post when to the wrong thread.  Warren, if you want, just delete it, I&#039;m going to be reposting it to the proper thread.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, my last post when to the wrong thread.  Warren, if you want, just delete it, I&#8217;m going to be reposting it to the proper thread.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/12/10/same-sex-marriage-conference-at-catholic-univ-of-america/#comment-3036</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chairm said in post 78764:



&lt;i&gt;Regarding votes on state amendments that was mentioned above, here are a couple of charts that show the share of YES votes in the various states.&lt;/I&gt;



I don&#039;t know where you got the data for those charts but it doesn&#039;t match the election data I got from CNN (and a couple of other sources).



For example your chart claims in 2006 the % voting in favor of gay marriage bans was 67%,  From the CNN Election result data, it was only 62.7%.  Even excluding the AZ data (which I can see no valid reason for you to do that) the result would only be about 64.2%  And averaging in the 2005 results (Texas and Kansas) still only gets you to 65%.



Additionally,  of all the data on votes I could find prior to 2003(2002,2000, 1998), the lowest margin was 67% to 33% (Nevada 2002).  All of the others were by margins greater than 67%.  So I&#039;m curious how you arrived at your 63% figure.



I stand by my original statement that polling and vote data indicate a trend towards greater support for same-sex marriage.



If anyone wants any links to the data  I used, I&#039;ll post them.   And for the record Chairm I &lt;b&gt;am&lt;/b&gt; asking for the data you used to create those charts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chairm said in post 78764:</p>
<p><i>Regarding votes on state amendments that was mentioned above, here are a couple of charts that show the share of YES votes in the various states.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know where you got the data for those charts but it doesn&#8217;t match the election data I got from CNN (and a couple of other sources).</p>
<p>For example your chart claims in 2006 the % voting in favor of gay marriage bans was 67%,  From the CNN Election result data, it was only 62.7%.  Even excluding the AZ data (which I can see no valid reason for you to do that) the result would only be about 64.2%  And averaging in the 2005 results (Texas and Kansas) still only gets you to 65%.</p>
<p>Additionally,  of all the data on votes I could find prior to 2003(2002,2000, 1998), the lowest margin was 67% to 33% (Nevada 2002).  All of the others were by margins greater than 67%.  So I&#8217;m curious how you arrived at your 63% figure.</p>
<p>I stand by my original statement that polling and vote data indicate a trend towards greater support for same-sex marriage.</p>
<p>If anyone wants any links to the data  I used, I&#8217;ll post them.   And for the record Chairm I <b>am</b> asking for the data you used to create those charts.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/12/10/same-sex-marriage-conference-at-catholic-univ-of-america/#comment-3035</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jayhuck,



Not to worry.  I&#039;m not offended that Ann does not appreciate my writing.  She&#039;s told us all several times that she refuses to read anything I write.  That is certainly her right.



Considering that Ann isn&#039;t reading this, perhaps you could ask her the following question:



What would be a good term to describe &quot;those who are opposed or hostile to homosexual social reforms and institutions, etc.&quot; as opposed to those who support such reforms and institutions?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jayhuck,</p>
<p>Not to worry.  I&#8217;m not offended that Ann does not appreciate my writing.  She&#8217;s told us all several times that she refuses to read anything I write.  That is certainly her right.</p>
<p>Considering that Ann isn&#8217;t reading this, perhaps you could ask her the following question:</p>
<p>What would be a good term to describe &#8220;those who are opposed or hostile to homosexual social reforms and institutions, etc.&#8221; as opposed to those who support such reforms and institutions?</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Not to belabor the point, but I also find Timothy’s comments invaluable and very substantive. &lt;/i&gt;



Jayhuck,



I don&#039;t think you are belaboring a point at all - I do understand that you find value and substance in the posts from both Eddy and Timothy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Not to belabor the point, but I also find Timothy’s comments invaluable and very substantive. </i></p>
<p>Jayhuck,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you are belaboring a point at all &#8211; I do understand that you find value and substance in the posts from both Eddy and Timothy.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jayhuck,



Yes, I agree with you about Eddy&#039;s contributions to the blog - I find them invaluable and very substantive and intelligent and fair.  He always has an attentive audience with me]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jayhuck,</p>
<p>Yes, I agree with you about Eddy&#8217;s contributions to the blog &#8211; I find them invaluable and very substantive and intelligent and fair.  He always has an attentive audience with me</p>
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