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		By: Robbi Kenney		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/10/06/narth-regrets-the-schoenewolf-commentsmisconstrued/#comment-2462</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robbi Kenney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 02:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, Lord. Alan said THAT on NPR? Guess I&#039;ll put my EXODUS ex-president hat on and go over there and give him a little consult.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Lord. Alan said THAT on NPR? Guess I&#8217;ll put my EXODUS ex-president hat on and go over there and give him a little consult.</p>
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		By: Boo		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/10/06/narth-regrets-the-schoenewolf-commentsmisconstrued/#comment-2461</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe Alan Chambers will soon be claiming that his recent claim on NPR&#039;s Fresh Air that most gay people don&#039;t want equal rights was also misconstrued.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Alan Chambers will soon be claiming that his recent claim on NPR&#8217;s Fresh Air that most gay people don&#8217;t want equal rights was also misconstrued.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/10/06/narth-regrets-the-schoenewolf-commentsmisconstrued/#comment-2460</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 21:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The SPLC has the posting date of the article wrong also:  &quot;Schoenewolf&#039;s essay first appeared on NARTH&#039;s website in the fall of 2005&quot;

Unless I&#039;m miscontruing the date at the bottom of the NARTH page, the Schoenewolf article was posted (or most recently revised) on April 5, 2005.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The SPLC has the posting date of the article wrong also:  &#8220;Schoenewolf&#8217;s essay first appeared on NARTH&#8217;s website in the fall of 2005&#8221;</p>
<p>Unless I&#8217;m miscontruing the date at the bottom of the NARTH page, the Schoenewolf article was posted (or most recently revised) on April 5, 2005.</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/10/06/narth-regrets-the-schoenewolf-commentsmisconstrued/#comment-2459</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From NARTH&#039;s &quot;apology&quot;:

&quot;It should go without saying that we do not wish to minimize the suffering of those who have been mistreated because of race, sex, religious beliefs or sexual orientation.&quot;

Yeah, it SHOULD go without saying, but NARTH keeps advsiors on their &quot;expert panel&quot; who continue to minimize these very things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From NARTH&#8217;s &#8220;apology&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;It should go without saying that we do not wish to minimize the suffering of those who have been mistreated because of race, sex, religious beliefs or sexual orientation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, it SHOULD go without saying, but NARTH keeps advsiors on their &#8220;expert panel&#8221; who continue to minimize these very things.</p>
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		By: Throckmorton		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/10/06/narth-regrets-the-schoenewolf-commentsmisconstrued/#comment-2458</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Throckmorton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 17:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The SPL Center article does not make it appear the Dr. Schoenewolf&#039;s meanings were misconstrued. He doesn&#039;t change anything. Perhaps, I misconstrued the SPL Center article. Then again, maybe I didn&#039;t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The SPL Center article does not make it appear the Dr. Schoenewolf&#8217;s meanings were misconstrued. He doesn&#8217;t change anything. Perhaps, I misconstrued the SPL Center article. Then again, maybe I didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/10/06/narth-regrets-the-schoenewolf-commentsmisconstrued/#comment-2457</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 06:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s how to tell if NARTH is truly sorry, if they have truly &quot;REPENTED&quot;:  I call it the Four &quot;R&#039;s&quot;:

1: RESPONSIBILITY:  I did &quot;X&#039;: and it was wrong.  No excuses. Just, &quot;I did someonetins wrong&quot;.

2:  REMORSE: &quot;I feel badly that I did wrong.&quot;  &quot;I recognixe that my actions hurt another child of God.&quot;

3:  REPAIR: &quot;I am committed to doimg something ELSE to make sure this does not happen again.&quot;

5:  no REPEATs:  &quot;I have donw &quot;X&quot; to be sure this does not happen again.&quot;

So far, NARTH has done NONE of these things.  Therefore, they have not apologized.

To apologize that some one may have &quot;misconstrued&quot; one&#039;s words or actions is NO apology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s how to tell if NARTH is truly sorry, if they have truly &#8220;REPENTED&#8221;:  I call it the Four &#8220;R&#8217;s&#8221;:</p>
<p>1: RESPONSIBILITY:  I did &#8220;X&#8217;: and it was wrong.  No excuses. Just, &#8220;I did someonetins wrong&#8221;.</p>
<p>2:  REMORSE: &#8220;I feel badly that I did wrong.&#8221;  &#8220;I recognixe that my actions hurt another child of God.&#8221;</p>
<p>3:  REPAIR: &#8220;I am committed to doimg something ELSE to make sure this does not happen again.&#8221;</p>
<p>5:  no REPEATs:  &#8220;I have donw &#8220;X&#8221; to be sure this does not happen again.&#8221;</p>
<p>So far, NARTH has done NONE of these things.  Therefore, they have not apologized.</p>
<p>To apologize that some one may have &#8220;misconstrued&#8221; one&#8217;s words or actions is NO apology.</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/10/06/narth-regrets-the-schoenewolf-commentsmisconstrued/#comment-2456</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 19:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Notice that NARTH does not say that there is anything wrong with the article.  They (whoever they are) just imply that some of us are not smart enough to &quot;construe&quot; it properly.  This is hardly an apology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notice that NARTH does not say that there is anything wrong with the article.  They (whoever they are) just imply that some of us are not smart enough to &#8220;construe&#8221; it properly.  This is hardly an apology.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/10/06/narth-regrets-the-schoenewolf-commentsmisconstrued/#comment-2455</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 19:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The way I read it, Shoenwolf if still defending the article:  &quot;The civil rights movement has from the beginning and today seen itself as good and others are evil, like slaveowners are evil.&quot;

Yeah, Schoenewolf, what&#039;s &quot;evil&quot; about buying human beings and using them to pick your cotton?.  The exercise probaly did them some good, eh?

Nicolosi is still  silent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I read it, Shoenwolf if still defending the article:  &#8220;The civil rights movement has from the beginning and today seen itself as good and others are evil, like slaveowners are evil.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, Schoenewolf, what&#8217;s &#8220;evil&#8221; about buying human beings and using them to pick your cotton?.  The exercise probaly did them some good, eh?</p>
<p>Nicolosi is still  silent.</p>
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		By: Boo		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/10/06/narth-regrets-the-schoenewolf-commentsmisconstrued/#comment-2454</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 15:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The proper chronology is:

Exgaywatch posted about some problematic statements by NARTH advisory board members, including the infamous &quot;bullying is good for kids!&quot; article, put up the NARTH advisory board member list, and suggested readers look into the rest of them.

http://www.exgaywatch.com/blog/archives/2006/09/post_7.html

Then I pulled Schoenewolf&#039;s name off the list at random, put it in NARTH&#039;s search engine, found the slavery article, and brought to to the attention of exgaywatch (same thread, 7th comment down) and Wayne Besen:

http://www.waynebesen.com/2006/09/great-church-marketing.html#comments

(4th comment)

Wayne put out a press release:

http://www.waynebesen.com/2006/09/truth-wins-out-condemns-ex-gay-group.html

and exgaywatch started posting about it:

http://www.exgaywatch.com/blog/archives/2006/09/narths_justific.html

The weirdness on NARTH&#039;s blog started:

http://www.exgaywatch.com/blog/archives/2006/09/narth_responds_1.html

And Dr. Throckmorton condemned the article:

http://wthrockmorton.blogspot.com/2006/09/political-correctness-and-schoenewolf.html

Then the National Black Justice Coalition got involved:

http://www.exgaywatch.com/blog/archives/2006/09/national_black.html

I would guess he mistook the NBJC for the instigator cause they&#039;re the most impressive sounding organization, maybe. Who knows? I don&#039;t really care who gets the credit.




Who am I kidding?! It was ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The proper chronology is:</p>
<p>Exgaywatch posted about some problematic statements by NARTH advisory board members, including the infamous &#8220;bullying is good for kids!&#8221; article, put up the NARTH advisory board member list, and suggested readers look into the rest of them.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.exgaywatch.com/blog/archives/2006/09/post_7.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.exgaywatch.com/blog/archives/2006/09/post_7.html</a></p>
<p>Then I pulled Schoenewolf&#8217;s name off the list at random, put it in NARTH&#8217;s search engine, found the slavery article, and brought to to the attention of exgaywatch (same thread, 7th comment down) and Wayne Besen:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.waynebesen.com/2006/09/great-church-marketing.html#comments" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.waynebesen.com/2006/09/great-church-marketing.html#comments</a></p>
<p>(4th comment)</p>
<p>Wayne put out a press release:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.waynebesen.com/2006/09/truth-wins-out-condemns-ex-gay-group.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.waynebesen.com/2006/09/truth-wins-out-condemns-ex-gay-group.html</a></p>
<p>and exgaywatch started posting about it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.exgaywatch.com/blog/archives/2006/09/narths_justific.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.exgaywatch.com/blog/archives/2006/09/narths_justific.html</a></p>
<p>The weirdness on NARTH&#8217;s blog started:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.exgaywatch.com/blog/archives/2006/09/narth_responds_1.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.exgaywatch.com/blog/archives/2006/09/narth_responds_1.html</a></p>
<p>And Dr. Throckmorton condemned the article:</p>
<p><a href="http://wthrockmorton.blogspot.com/2006/09/political-correctness-and-schoenewolf.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://wthrockmorton.blogspot.com/2006/09/political-correctness-and-schoenewolf.html</a></p>
<p>Then the National Black Justice Coalition got involved:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.exgaywatch.com/blog/archives/2006/09/national_black.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.exgaywatch.com/blog/archives/2006/09/national_black.html</a></p>
<p>I would guess he mistook the NBJC for the instigator cause they&#8217;re the most impressive sounding organization, maybe. Who knows? I don&#8217;t really care who gets the credit.</p>
<p>Who am I kidding?! It was ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! ME!!!</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 03:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The chronology is way off on this disclosure see if you agree (from the article):

Schoenewolf&#039;s essay first appeared on NARTH&#039;s website in the fall of 2005, but apparently went unnoticed by critics until mid-September, around the time the executive director of the National Black Justice Coalition, a black gay and lesbian advocacy organization, delivered to NARTH a formal letter of protest.

&quot;In the name of propriety, respect, common decency and professional integrity, the National Black Justice Coalition strongly urges NARTH to issue a public apology on the front page of its website for publishing such an outrageous and offensive article,&quot; wrote H. Alexander Robinson. &quot;We also hope that you reevaluate your relationship with Dr. Schoenewolf, whose peculiar views have no place in civilized discourse.&quot;

Then, in late September, the gay rights group Truth Wins Out called on Focus on the Family to cancel a speaking appearance by NARTH executive director Joseph Nicolosi scheduled for a Focus on the Family conference held September 23 in Palm Springs, Calif.

I think the proper chronology is Ex-Gay watch to Throckmorton to Truth Wins Out to National Black Justice Coalition.

Why would he do this bass ackwards?  Or do I have it wrong?

David Blakeslee]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The chronology is way off on this disclosure see if you agree (from the article):</p>
<p>Schoenewolf&#8217;s essay first appeared on NARTH&#8217;s website in the fall of 2005, but apparently went unnoticed by critics until mid-September, around the time the executive director of the National Black Justice Coalition, a black gay and lesbian advocacy organization, delivered to NARTH a formal letter of protest.</p>
<p>&#8220;In the name of propriety, respect, common decency and professional integrity, the National Black Justice Coalition strongly urges NARTH to issue a public apology on the front page of its website for publishing such an outrageous and offensive article,&#8221; wrote H. Alexander Robinson. &#8220;We also hope that you reevaluate your relationship with Dr. Schoenewolf, whose peculiar views have no place in civilized discourse.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then, in late September, the gay rights group Truth Wins Out called on Focus on the Family to cancel a speaking appearance by NARTH executive director Joseph Nicolosi scheduled for a Focus on the Family conference held September 23 in Palm Springs, Calif.</p>
<p>I think the proper chronology is Ex-Gay watch to Throckmorton to Truth Wins Out to National Black Justice Coalition.</p>
<p>Why would he do this bass ackwards?  Or do I have it wrong?</p>
<p>David Blakeslee</p>
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