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		By: Throckmorton		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/09/26/narth-responds-to-the-schoenewolf-controversy/#comment-2377</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Throckmorton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 01:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The situation has gone on much too long. It is unbecoming and unseemly. I call on NARTH to take the concerns raised about the Schoenewolf article seriously and decisively.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The situation has gone on much too long. It is unbecoming and unseemly. I call on NARTH to take the concerns raised about the Schoenewolf article seriously and decisively.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/09/26/narth-responds-to-the-schoenewolf-controversy/#comment-2376</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 03:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I posted this on the NARTH Blog:

With all due respect, Jennifer, there is a difference between a blogger from ex-gay watch posting an abusive, threatening rascist comment to DL and a NARTH article which looks at the &quot;sunny side&quot; of slavery.

The former is a peripheral person in this debate and was &quot;kicked off&quot; ex-gay watch after his comments were exposed. The latter is a professional and expert.

I understand feelings are running high. I think this is a mistake to politicize this process. We have an identity as a scientific organization which is weakened by the poor comparison made above.

Lets blog about science, let&#039;s post articles on science.

David Blakeslee]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted this on the NARTH Blog:</p>
<p>With all due respect, Jennifer, there is a difference between a blogger from ex-gay watch posting an abusive, threatening rascist comment to DL and a NARTH article which looks at the &#8220;sunny side&#8221; of slavery.</p>
<p>The former is a peripheral person in this debate and was &#8220;kicked off&#8221; ex-gay watch after his comments were exposed. The latter is a professional and expert.</p>
<p>I understand feelings are running high. I think this is a mistake to politicize this process. We have an identity as a scientific organization which is weakened by the poor comparison made above.</p>
<p>Lets blog about science, let&#8217;s post articles on science.</p>
<p>David Blakeslee</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/09/26/narth-responds-to-the-schoenewolf-controversy/#comment-2375</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 23:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just received this from Mike at Exgay Watch -- a clarification of and response to NARTH&#039;s blogmaster&#039;s (FALSE)accusation that Exgay Watch had made violent, racist threats:

&quot;Just for complete clarification; you all know all or parts of this:

http://www.exgaywatch.com/blog/archives/2006/08/commenter_adam.html

1. Kautz wasn&#039;t an active commenter -- I found only 12 previous comments by him.

2. As has been pointed out already, he made the racist and threatening comments on D.L.&#039;s site, not ours.

3. We banned him anyway because if those comments had been posted at XGW, they would have violated our guidelines. We try not to allow commenters to use XGW as a safe harbor while they conduct unethical or illegal activities elsewhere&quot;.

--Mike (Exgay Watch)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just received this from Mike at Exgay Watch &#8212; a clarification of and response to NARTH&#8217;s blogmaster&#8217;s (FALSE)accusation that Exgay Watch had made violent, racist threats:</p>
<p>&#8220;Just for complete clarification; you all know all or parts of this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.exgaywatch.com/blog/archives/2006/08/commenter_adam.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.exgaywatch.com/blog/archives/2006/08/commenter_adam.html</a></p>
<p>1. Kautz wasn&#8217;t an active commenter &#8212; I found only 12 previous comments by him.</p>
<p>2. As has been pointed out already, he made the racist and threatening comments on D.L.&#8217;s site, not ours.</p>
<p>3. We banned him anyway because if those comments had been posted at XGW, they would have violated our guidelines. We try not to allow commenters to use XGW as a safe harbor while they conduct unethical or illegal activities elsewhere&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8211;Mike (Exgay Watch)</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/09/26/narth-responds-to-the-schoenewolf-controversy/#comment-2374</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just called David Pruden of NARTH again, as the secretary at the NARTH office just directed me to do. I spoke with Mr. Pruden yesterday about this and I just challenged him (again) to read the blogmaster&#039;s comments and defense of Schoenewolf. In particular, I directed his attention to these lines:

&quot;Why white gays activits(sic)are not apologizing for the repeated acts of racism they engage in?&quot;

&quot;If one could sum up the leadership of the Ex Gay crsuaders (sic) at the hate blog Ex Gay Watch it would be this &quot;People who live in glass houses shouldn&#039;t throw rocks&quot;.

It is WAY out of line to suggest that all of NARTH&#039;s critics (and the folks at Exgay Watch) are &quot;racist&quot;. Is Dr. Throckmorton racist?  He also thinks you should PULL the article and APOLOGIZE.

It is WAY past time for Dr. Nicolosi, Mr. Pruden and whoever may actually be in &quot;charge&quot; of NARTH to respond.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just called David Pruden of NARTH again, as the secretary at the NARTH office just directed me to do. I spoke with Mr. Pruden yesterday about this and I just challenged him (again) to read the blogmaster&#8217;s comments and defense of Schoenewolf. In particular, I directed his attention to these lines:</p>
<p>&#8220;Why white gays activits(sic)are not apologizing for the repeated acts of racism they engage in?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;If one could sum up the leadership of the Ex Gay crsuaders (sic) at the hate blog Ex Gay Watch it would be this &#8220;People who live in glass houses shouldn&#8217;t throw rocks&#8221;.</p>
<p>It is WAY out of line to suggest that all of NARTH&#8217;s critics (and the folks at Exgay Watch) are &#8220;racist&#8221;. Is Dr. Throckmorton racist?  He also thinks you should PULL the article and APOLOGIZE.</p>
<p>It is WAY past time for Dr. Nicolosi, Mr. Pruden and whoever may actually be in &#8220;charge&#8221; of NARTH to respond.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/09/26/narth-responds-to-the-schoenewolf-controversy/#comment-2373</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From their blog:

&quot;NARTH values diversity of opinions and freedom of speech, and encourages individual writers.&quot;

Are they JOKING?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From their blog:</p>
<p>&#8220;NARTH values diversity of opinions and freedom of speech, and encourages individual writers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are they JOKING?</p>
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