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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 03:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TO:  Alan Chambers
President, EXODUS International
FROM:  MIchael Bussee
EXODUS Co-founder
RE:  Allies, too.

Dear Alan:

Scott just sent me your â€œAllies, Tooâ€ information.  Now THIS is progress!!!  This is ALL I really wanted from you all along.  Too bad you waited to do it as a response to the GSA â€œAllies Weekâ€ announcement of October 15, 2006. It would have been cool for it to be EXODUSâ€™s own initiative, not a reaction to the Gay Student Alliance making the move.  But, hey, I will take it no matter HOW it got done.

Why not make it apply to all of us, not just students, and announce it at the LWO conference?  If you will do that, I will personally let the so-called â€œpro-gayâ€ forces KNOW where exactly where you stand TODAY.  Why not put these same three points on the FRONT PAGE of the EXODUS website â€“ not just for STUDENTS to pledge, but for ALL of us (on BOTH sides of the â€œgay issueâ€) to â€œmake the WORLD (not just schools) a safe and abuse-free place for all peopleâ€ (not just students).

Maybe put a â€œbuttonâ€ on your front page that reads:  â€œOur Pledge for a Safe and Harassment Free Worldâ€.

(1) Never use slurs or demeaning language against anyone.

(2) Make efforts, when I feel itâ€™s possible, to stop any name-calling or harassment I see.

(3) Express my beliefs with compassion, and pursue dialog with those who disagree.

The language is something that I think all of us could agree on.  I would promote these three points in everything I say and let people know that EXODUS wrote it.

I have printed out a copy and just signed it.  Letâ€™s all pledge to do the same RIGHT NOW.  I believe it is WAY past time.

In Christ,
Michael]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO:  Alan Chambers<br />
President, EXODUS International<br />
FROM:  MIchael Bussee<br />
EXODUS Co-founder<br />
RE:  Allies, too.</p>
<p>Dear Alan:</p>
<p>Scott just sent me your â€œAllies, Tooâ€ information.  Now THIS is progress!!!  This is ALL I really wanted from you all along.  Too bad you waited to do it as a response to the GSA â€œAllies Weekâ€ announcement of October 15, 2006. It would have been cool for it to be EXODUSâ€™s own initiative, not a reaction to the Gay Student Alliance making the move.  But, hey, I will take it no matter HOW it got done.</p>
<p>Why not make it apply to all of us, not just students, and announce it at the LWO conference?  If you will do that, I will personally let the so-called â€œpro-gayâ€ forces KNOW where exactly where you stand TODAY.  Why not put these same three points on the FRONT PAGE of the EXODUS website â€“ not just for STUDENTS to pledge, but for ALL of us (on BOTH sides of the â€œgay issueâ€) to â€œmake the WORLD (not just schools) a safe and abuse-free place for all peopleâ€ (not just students).</p>
<p>Maybe put a â€œbuttonâ€ on your front page that reads:  â€œOur Pledge for a Safe and Harassment Free Worldâ€.</p>
<p>(1) Never use slurs or demeaning language against anyone.</p>
<p>(2) Make efforts, when I feel itâ€™s possible, to stop any name-calling or harassment I see.</p>
<p>(3) Express my beliefs with compassion, and pursue dialog with those who disagree.</p>
<p>The language is something that I think all of us could agree on.  I would promote these three points in everything I say and let people know that EXODUS wrote it.</p>
<p>I have printed out a copy and just signed it.  Letâ€™s all pledge to do the same RIGHT NOW.  I believe it is WAY past time.</p>
<p>In Christ,<br />
Michael</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/09/12/common-ground/#comment-2272</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately, &quot;Dr.&quot; Schoenwolf doesn&#039;t know the history of Africa&#039;s great empires back then, like the Mali, the Songhai, and the Niger that flourished western Africa. It went really well until the savage Europeans use their maxim guns in Nigeria]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, &#8220;Dr.&#8221; Schoenwolf doesn&#8217;t know the history of Africa&#8217;s great empires back then, like the Mali, the Songhai, and the Niger that flourished western Africa. It went really well until the savage Europeans use their maxim guns in Nigeria</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/09/12/common-ground/#comment-2271</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s educate NARTH and Schoenewolf:

http://www.pbs.org/wonders/fr_wn.htm is a great place to begin to explore just how stupid Schonewolf is when he says that pre-slave-era Africa was basically a an &quot;uncivilized, savage jungle&quot;.

Quote from the site: &quot;Africa is a continent of magnificent treasures and cultures -- from the breathtaking stone architecture of 1,000-year-old ruins in South Africa to an advanced 16th century international university in Timbuktu. However, for centuries, many of these African wonders have been hidden from the world, lost to the ravages of time, nature and repressive governments.&quot;

The website includes articles on: Black Kingdoms of the Nile, Temples of Abu Simbel, Black Pharaohs, City of Jebel Barkal, Pyramids at Giza, The Swahili Coast, Historic Gedi The Swahili People, Slave Kingdoms, Ashanti Kingdom and many others.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s educate NARTH and Schoenewolf:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wonders/fr_wn.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.pbs.org/wonders/fr_wn.htm</a> is a great place to begin to explore just how stupid Schonewolf is when he says that pre-slave-era Africa was basically a an &#8220;uncivilized, savage jungle&#8221;.</p>
<p>Quote from the site: &#8220;Africa is a continent of magnificent treasures and cultures &#8212; from the breathtaking stone architecture of 1,000-year-old ruins in South Africa to an advanced 16th century international university in Timbuktu. However, for centuries, many of these African wonders have been hidden from the world, lost to the ravages of time, nature and repressive governments.&#8221;</p>
<p>The website includes articles on: Black Kingdoms of the Nile, Temples of Abu Simbel, Black Pharaohs, City of Jebel Barkal, Pyramids at Giza, The Swahili Coast, Historic Gedi The Swahili People, Slave Kingdoms, Ashanti Kingdom and many others.</p>
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		By: Robbi Kenney		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/09/12/common-ground/#comment-2270</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/09/12/common-ground/#comment-2269</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 19:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Looks like you might need to start a new &quot;thread&quot; on this one.  I am astonished and disgusted by the Schoenewolf comments.  &quot;Africa was savage and uncivilized&quot;?  Slaves were &quot;in many ways better off&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like you might need to start a new &#8220;thread&#8221; on this one.  I am astonished and disgusted by the Schoenewolf comments.  &#8220;Africa was savage and uncivilized&#8221;?  Slaves were &#8220;in many ways better off&#8221;?</p>
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