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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/08/01/changing-the-tone/#comment-1880</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have asked EXODUS.  Nothing.  I think they are afraid that such a statement might be misinterpreted as a validation of the gay lifestyle.  They say they are against it, but they won&#039;t make it &quot;front page&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have asked EXODUS.  Nothing.  I think they are afraid that such a statement might be misinterpreted as a validation of the gay lifestyle.  They say they are against it, but they won&#8217;t make it &#8220;front page&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Throckmorton		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/08/01/changing-the-tone/#comment-1879</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, I have been vocal about it. I have the only anti-bullying curriculum out there from a conservative mainstream perspective. About NARTH and Exodus, ask them. I would love to see conservative get fired up about the issue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I have been vocal about it. I have the only anti-bullying curriculum out there from a conservative mainstream perspective. About NARTH and Exodus, ask them. I would love to see conservative get fired up about the issue.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/08/01/changing-the-tone/#comment-1878</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of changing the tone, how about a very clear and very public statement on the EXODUS and NARTH homepages condemning violence against gays?  How about an article from EXODUS or NARTH about what Christian&#039;s can do to decrease hatred of and violence towards gays?

You won&#039;t find anything like that if you search the EXODUS site.  I&#039;m not suggesting that they condone it, only that they are not very public in condemning it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of changing the tone, how about a very clear and very public statement on the EXODUS and NARTH homepages condemning violence against gays?  How about an article from EXODUS or NARTH about what Christian&#8217;s can do to decrease hatred of and violence towards gays?</p>
<p>You won&#8217;t find anything like that if you search the EXODUS site.  I&#8217;m not suggesting that they condone it, only that they are not very public in condemning it.</p>
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		By: grantdale		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/08/01/changing-the-tone/#comment-1877</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh I don&#039;t mind if you proclaim YOURSELF to be a sinner.

Knock yourself out -- here, take this hammer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I don&#8217;t mind if you proclaim YOURSELF to be a sinner.</p>
<p>Knock yourself out &#8212; here, take this hammer.</p>
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		By: Throckmorton		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/08/01/changing-the-tone/#comment-1876</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Throckmorton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[grantdale - I am laughing. Well, I was laughing. On so many levels, prolonging a commercial blog scam with Wayne just seems funny. Well, I don&#039;t think sinner would qualify as name calling. I would call myself that. Probably depends on the context and the adjective that preceded it. I won&#039;t go there or else I would have to reject my own post :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>grantdale &#8211; I am laughing. Well, I was laughing. On so many levels, prolonging a commercial blog scam with Wayne just seems funny. Well, I don&#8217;t think sinner would qualify as name calling. I would call myself that. Probably depends on the context and the adjective that preceded it. I won&#8217;t go there or else I would have to reject my own post 🙂</p>
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		By: grantdale		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/08/01/changing-the-tone/#comment-1875</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, it&#039;s your blog Warren :)

Not sure we&#039;d have a comment on his editorial policy therefore Jim. Oh, wait... just a minute... yes...

Also noticed Wayen Besen has recently made a similar announcement (although the comments here beg no comparison to the one&#039;s over there. Eye watering and ear curling, and more than a few apparently orginating from Atlanta for some odd reason /smirk).

I&#039;ll have to ask -- &#039;cause it&#039;ll play on my mind otherwise -- but you and Wayne haven&#039;t had a head-to-head and made a mutual decision about how best to prolong some commercial blogging scam have you!!!

PS: does name calling include &quot;sinner&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s your blog Warren 🙂</p>
<p>Not sure we&#8217;d have a comment on his editorial policy therefore Jim. Oh, wait&#8230; just a minute&#8230; yes&#8230;</p>
<p>Also noticed Wayen Besen has recently made a similar announcement (although the comments here beg no comparison to the one&#8217;s over there. Eye watering and ear curling, and more than a few apparently orginating from Atlanta for some odd reason /smirk).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to ask &#8212; &#8217;cause it&#8217;ll play on my mind otherwise &#8212; but you and Wayne haven&#8217;t had a head-to-head and made a mutual decision about how best to prolong some commercial blogging scam have you!!!</p>
<p>PS: does name calling include &#8220;sinner&#8221;?</p>
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		By: Throckmorton		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/08/01/changing-the-tone/#comment-1874</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You are correct that this has been a difficult call for me. I really value the give and take but it is quite time consuming. Also, making judgment calls will mean I will be inconsistent at times I am sure. I already have comments moderation on but let almost everything through. I intend to be more stringent.

Comments like letters to the editor would actually be fine. However, I think the dynamism of just chatting is great too if it can be respectful and to the point.

Also, I think the time wasting element of it all is that I get many requests to back up various points that I have already spoken to in past posts or I do not have time to do. As I conceive a blog, it is a place of hopefully informed opinion but not a peer reviewed outlet. I shoot from the hip sometimes and have backed off of some things because commenters have provided alternative ways of thinking that are challenging. So I will see how this works.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct that this has been a difficult call for me. I really value the give and take but it is quite time consuming. Also, making judgment calls will mean I will be inconsistent at times I am sure. I already have comments moderation on but let almost everything through. I intend to be more stringent.</p>
<p>Comments like letters to the editor would actually be fine. However, I think the dynamism of just chatting is great too if it can be respectful and to the point.</p>
<p>Also, I think the time wasting element of it all is that I get many requests to back up various points that I have already spoken to in past posts or I do not have time to do. As I conceive a blog, it is a place of hopefully informed opinion but not a peer reviewed outlet. I shoot from the hip sometimes and have backed off of some things because commenters have provided alternative ways of thinking that are challenging. So I will see how this works.</p>
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		By: Jim Burroway		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/08/01/changing-the-tone/#comment-1873</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Burroway]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d be interested in seeing how this works out. I have similar concerns about comments, which is why I haven&#039;t enabled them (yet?) on my site.

For one, I&#039;m not sure what role comments can best play on a site in which such divisive issues are covered. I think comments add significant value in Ex-gay Watch, for example, but that is due, partly I think, to the tremendous self-policing that the site operators and regular commenters put into it. But it does take time an denergy/ I barely have time as it is; I don&#039;t even know where to begin when it comes to comments.

I think your ground rules are good. I&#039;d be interested in seeing how much time and effort it takes on your part to enforce them. Also whether you think in the end if a constructive dialog is achieved, especially when comments may be held in moderation for a considerable amount of time.

My guess would be that moderated comments may take on more of a &quot;Letter to the editor&quot; quality, rather than conversations back and forth along a thread. For example, assuming grantdale has already offered their opinions on this thread, I have no way of either adding or countering anything they said, because I haven&#039;t seen them yet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be interested in seeing how this works out. I have similar concerns about comments, which is why I haven&#8217;t enabled them (yet?) on my site.</p>
<p>For one, I&#8217;m not sure what role comments can best play on a site in which such divisive issues are covered. I think comments add significant value in Ex-gay Watch, for example, but that is due, partly I think, to the tremendous self-policing that the site operators and regular commenters put into it. But it does take time an denergy/ I barely have time as it is; I don&#8217;t even know where to begin when it comes to comments.</p>
<p>I think your ground rules are good. I&#8217;d be interested in seeing how much time and effort it takes on your part to enforce them. Also whether you think in the end if a constructive dialog is achieved, especially when comments may be held in moderation for a considerable amount of time.</p>
<p>My guess would be that moderated comments may take on more of a &#8220;Letter to the editor&#8221; quality, rather than conversations back and forth along a thread. For example, assuming grantdale has already offered their opinions on this thread, I have no way of either adding or countering anything they said, because I haven&#8217;t seen them yet.</p>
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