Robert Knight countered with the “85” at the HRC. Some of these, I presume are accountants.

Knight neglected to mention the other 135 people (or whatever it is now) running Exodus Ministries.

Plus those at Focus on the Family. Plus, say, Warren Throckmorton at Grove City (admit, part time). Plus NARTH. Plus himself, a concerned man, working for CWFA.

Etc. Etc.

But Wayne is to be administered your sarcastic and rather un-Christian put downs for having a similar small team.

I get it: social conservatives believe it’s ok to annoint yourself teacher and run a school in your house, but it’s something to ridicule if a non-profit’s beginnings are similarly humble.

I support what Wayne is doing fully. As a Christian, I support him. As someone who tried to pray until the gay went away, and it didn’t, I support Wayne. As someone who woke up one day and realized I should stop chasing a man-made version of what God wanted, and instead realized that God wanted me as he created me, I support Wayne.

Have you never heard the Three Dog Night tune – One?

Actually, that would have been a clever intent, if only I had it.

It appears to be a sarcastic, and rather un-Christian, swipe that Wayne Besen is launching his group on his own (although, from the look of things, the website, a costly launch at the National Press Club, he appears to have at least a small team helping him).

I find it interesting that social conservatives, who advocate home schooling, would have a problem with home businesses or home-based non-profit beginnings.

Were all conservative religious groups launched with staff and offices at first?

Are you suggesting that exposing fraud is an offensive thing to do?

Would knowingly permitting a fruadulent organisation to continue be the “inoffensive” thing to do?

Whether Besen succeeds in his efforts is another matter (as is whether many exgays will even care if frauds are exposed. Past experience is that a fraud would simply vanish, to be replaced by a new person making the same old claim). But that seems a rather bewildering stance for you to take.

Surely — in a perfect world — exgay groups and yourself whould be equally willing to expose fraud?

Why would it be a bad idea for a group to expose frauds among their oponents?

I just don’t agree with your doubts on those two scores.

Wayne’s done a pretty good job with the “gotcha” approach so far, actually.

I know Wayne. Trust me, so called “ex gays” are in trouble.

It says the organization will launch, not the website. The website or *a* website is actually a good medium to advertise for an upcoming event.

Ivan.

The site is meant to launch 7 June, per the press release. I simply assumed it’s locked out until then, rather than thinking Wayne Besen doesn’t want us there…