Comments on: Brokeback Syndrome? https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:12:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.3 By: David Ben-Ariel https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/#comment-1008 Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:12:00 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/#comment-1008 Brokeback Mountain Blues: Thoughts of a celibate, gay Christian
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COMMENTARY: Writing from the depths of my struggles, as a celibate homosexual and a Christian, Brokeback Mountain forcibly brings all these tumultuous thoughts, tormenting conflicts of interest and personal struggles to the surface, surging like lava from…

]]> By: Rob https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/#comment-1007 Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:00:00 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/#comment-1007 Dr Throckmorton,

Recently Tim Wilkins, Cross Ministries, wrote an article about why he would not see Brokeback. He identifies as a former homosexual however he admitted that he still has same-sex attraction. If most people define being homosexual as a person who has same-sex attraction, and Tim Wilkins has same-sex attraction, then does this mean that Tim Wilkins is a homosexual? Or is being homosexual only a label and has nothing to do with physical attraction?

Thanks

]]> By: Rob https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/#comment-1006 Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:59:00 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/#comment-1006 Dr Throckmorton,

Recently Tim Wilkins, Cross Ministries, wrote an article about why he would not see Brokeback. He identifies as a former homosexual however he admitted that he still has same-sex attraction. If most people define being homosexual as a person who has same-sex attraction, and Tim Wilkins has same-sex attraction, then does this mean that Tim Wilkins is a homosexual? Or is being homosexual only a label and has nothing to do with physical attraction?

Thanks

]]> By: Boo https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/#comment-1005 Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:55:00 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/#comment-1005 Dr. Throckmorton- my opinion of you just went up.

But then you’ve said things that aren’t true in the past to me so who knows…

http://wthrockmorton.blogspot.com/2005/10/bill-oreilly-is-right-about-gay-teens.html

]]> By: grantdale https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/#comment-1004 Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:42:00 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/#comment-1004 Warren,

Just an aside — but why are your “supportive” people anonymous?

I mean, we protect our identity to some extent — as do you — but we’re also happy to be at least identified.

For what it worth… once again, just to back what we’re noticing.

Oh heck, why not have a look at a full trip while you’re at it…

BTW: your collegue, Rev. DL, claims “we” do not exist — despite all evidence to the contrary. Based on his own life, apparently we are therefore involved in drug-fueled orgies. Of course, I am also saddened to imagine you and your wife as a mirror of “War of the Roses”… somehow I guess you are not 🙂

Why do PFOX associate with DL Foster?

]]> By: Throckmorton https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/#comment-1003 Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:28:00 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/#comment-1003 Boo – Ex-gay ministries won’t retool because they are not consumer oriented service organizations. They may have a shrinking population but they will continue on because they believe they are faithful to the teaching.

Regarding me and a person such as you describe. This is not a hypothetical. I have done and do this now.

]]> By: Boo https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/#comment-1002 Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:23:00 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/#comment-1002 And hence as the worldview that gay people are irreedemably awful fades away, fewer and fewer people will experience conflict between their sexual orientation and their worldview, and “change” ministries and counselors will become obsolete, or at least the change part will. There will still be a need to help gay people of the type who get drawn into these programs with their real problems- be they sexual addiction or whatever, but I doubt most “ex-gay” ministries would be able to successfully retool themselves for that purpose. Plus, once LGBTs have social and political equality then Focus on the Family and likeminded groups will no longer find gay bashing to be useful for fundraising and these groups will lose their major support.

So I’m curious Dr. Throckmorton- if a gay person comes to you saying that they experience a conflict between their lifestyle and their values, and they want to tone down their unhealthy sexual acting out and seek out a healthier relationship without changing their sexual orientation, what would you do?

]]> By: grantdale https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/#comment-1001 Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:23:00 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/#comment-1001 Warren, sometimes I wonder…

I addressed the social pressure on people to be dishonest, and then said to talk about “choice” in such an environnent is “academic nonsense”.

This — somehow — is about YOU thinking choice is nonsense?

No. And I really don’t need to score points with you over what true choice means. You’ve sided time and time again with very anti-choice people; including those who would willing gaol gay men and women.

I’ll ask again: as a professional, what effect do you think anti-gay social attitudes have on the mental health of gay men and women? What effect does it have on their family?

]]> By: Anonymous https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/#comment-1000 Tue, 14 Feb 2006 06:58:00 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/#comment-1000 In other words, you recognize that as the world changes to become more accomodating of gay people you will inevitably become obsolete?

I think Warren said something quite reasonable–that humans are not ruled solely by raw feelings, and that life may very well be about how one goes about integrating those feelings into their worldview.

If people like him become obsolete and are replaced by the likes of you, god (or satan, or the easter bunny) help us all.

]]> By: Throckmorton https://wthrockmorton.com/2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/#comment-999 Tue, 14 Feb 2006 05:23:00 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2006/02/10/brokeback-syndrome/#comment-999 I suppose time will tell, Boo.

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