None of those things would stun me. It was Warren not knowing Nicolosi had been making this joke for several years that stunned me.

Warren, I also accept that you will not make light of this. I shall be interested to hear what that involves (and you know I’ll ask, some day).

But… I’d also suggest that the fact such an offensive comparison is greated by laughter at these Love(sic) Won Out conferences says a great deal about what’s really going on.

Where, on wonders, are all the other speakers at LWO? Not a peep out of them, or from Focus who are responsible for continuing to invite him.

Crass and personal invective I can handle. Lewd and crude, not a prob (in the right environment). But a professional joking about brain damaged babies and how they are more fortunate than gay men and women??? Yuck.

I posted the remark from Nicolosi because I think is in poor taste and offensive.

I have been subjected to far worse comments from people who post here but this is no reason for me or anyone to stoop to that.

I am not going to say publicly at this point what I am doing but suffice it to say that I am not taking it mildly or being inactive.

Boo

Are you suggesting we stop? Stop what?

Everyone is entitled to realise the folly of their ways. Or the harm they are causing others.

We live in hope — or fight the fight 🙂

Boo

This is an appalling response from you Warren. I have every reason to be utterly disgusted by what Nicolosi said, as I would hope all right thinking people would be.

You are a professional Warren, and someone — a psychologist — you politically associate with jokes that a brain damaged infant is to be preferred over homosexuality.

I am not being “fussy” — I am in fact UTTERLY REVOLTED.

That is why I was stunned — at both your ignorance of Nicolosi, and reticence when it all SHOULD have been obvious.

Warren, treating my horror at the REPEATED comments as trivial does not forgive Nicolosi. Joking about our sensitivity on this does nothing but slander yourself.

We were “stunned”, and am now disgusted. Please stop making light of this.

No, I have not spoken at a LWO conference and I have been to three NARTH conferences. I do not remember that comment. I would have said something about it then if I did.

I am taking steps to address the issue and that is all I want to say at this point.

You said you would be offended if Joe Nicolosi said such a thing, and your response to proof that he has been saying it for years is to blow it off.

You and Nicolosi have been communicating for several years — and I simply do not believe you are unaware of his VERY public statements. You claim to be an expert about LWO or NARTH, including speaking at their meetings, when it suits you.

Honestly, do you truly care who you are associating with? Or what harm HE is causing? Would you, could you, say so if you thought so?

Memphis

PS: why are they members then? Because it’s either NARTH or nothing. I do believe, though, that these therapists would be better off starting their own organization, one that does not pathologize nor degrade those who are happy being gay.