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		By: Throckmorton		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2005/10/18/is-there-a-gay-agenda/#comment-714</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you mean the O&#039;Reilly thread on this blog, you are indeed correct. Maybe my biggest...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you mean the O&#8217;Reilly thread on this blog, you are indeed correct. Maybe my biggest&#8230;</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Off topic, but you appear to have quite a fan over in the O&#039;Rielly thread

Boo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic, but you appear to have quite a fan over in the O&#8217;Rielly thread</p>
<p>Boo</p>
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		By: grantdale		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 02:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;I only have anecdotal stories 5-10 years out but this is the same as nearly all other therapists I know. No one is keeping that kind of information on clients unless it is via some kind of research project.&lt;/I&gt;

Indeed -- one of my major bugbears about the therapy industry, full-stop.

This is why the anedoctal stories of success need be tempered by the anecdotal stories from those therapists who see these clients 5 or 10 years down the road (when everything falls apart, including those carefully created narratives). I think it highly unlikely a client would attend the original reorientation therapist at that point.

Privacy issues aside, I see this lack of follow-up (and often unwillingness in the profession to acknowledge the lack of reality testing caused by that lack of follow-up) as an environment rife for abuse. Anyway, my 2c.

And yes -- familiar with Portsmouth OH... that would be where Nicolas Cummings came into view as the founding CEO of Amer.Biodyne (which eventually became Magellan.) You had kind words about Cumming&#039;s recent book. Mildly interestingly, Cummings also founded CSPP where Nicolosi got his Pd.D. and where Epstein works/ed (at CSPP-AIU) apart from being the senior editor of Psychology Today; the publication (and editor) that created a ruckus after accepting an advert for Nicolosi&#039;s book.

And that was just a 5 minute google about 2 years ago.

What a funny old &quot;Six Degrees of Separation&quot; World we live in... :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I only have anecdotal stories 5-10 years out but this is the same as nearly all other therapists I know. No one is keeping that kind of information on clients unless it is via some kind of research project.</i></p>
<p>Indeed &#8212; one of my major bugbears about the therapy industry, full-stop.</p>
<p>This is why the anedoctal stories of success need be tempered by the anecdotal stories from those therapists who see these clients 5 or 10 years down the road (when everything falls apart, including those carefully created narratives). I think it highly unlikely a client would attend the original reorientation therapist at that point.</p>
<p>Privacy issues aside, I see this lack of follow-up (and often unwillingness in the profession to acknowledge the lack of reality testing caused by that lack of follow-up) as an environment rife for abuse. Anyway, my 2c.</p>
<p>And yes &#8212; familiar with Portsmouth OH&#8230; that would be where Nicolas Cummings came into view as the founding CEO of Amer.Biodyne (which eventually became Magellan.) You had kind words about Cumming&#8217;s recent book. Mildly interestingly, Cummings also founded CSPP where Nicolosi got his Pd.D. and where Epstein works/ed (at CSPP-AIU) apart from being the senior editor of Psychology Today; the publication (and editor) that created a ruckus after accepting an advert for Nicolosi&#8217;s book.</p>
<p>And that was just a 5 minute google about 2 years ago.</p>
<p>What a funny old &#8220;Six Degrees of Separation&#8221; World we live in&#8230; 🙂</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Jody&#039;s a &quot;he.&quot;

Boo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Jody&#8217;s a &#8220;he.&#8221;</p>
<p>Boo</p>
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		By: Throckmorton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;Don&#039;t worry about Jody. She&#039;s an angry nobody with nothing worthwhile to say or contribute. &lt;/I&gt;

Well, I don&#039;t see anybody as a nobody and I am not particularly worried about her. Apparently she has plenty to say but I will agree it didn&#039;t make much of a contribution. Clearly her mind is made up. Interesting that she keeps reading and posting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Don&#8217;t worry about Jody. She&#8217;s an angry nobody with nothing worthwhile to say or contribute. </i></p>
<p>Well, I don&#8217;t see anybody as a nobody and I am not particularly worried about her. Apparently she has plenty to say but I will agree it didn&#8217;t make much of a contribution. Clearly her mind is made up. Interesting that she keeps reading and posting.</p>
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