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	Comments on: BBC Documentary &#8220;Sad to be Gay&#8221;	</title>
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	<description>A [retired] college psychology professor&#039;s observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues</description>
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		By: kaiwai		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2005/08/08/bbc-documentary-sad-to-be-gay/#comment-216</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kaiwai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 19:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just a follow up; if one needs to get religious on the matter, from the Buddhist perspective (the Seven Noble Truths) - his suffering is derived from desire, and that desire is to change his orientation to meet the &#039;requirements&#039; or &#039;desires&#039; of others - the desires that he thinks are his own, are actually those of others, which he thinks, if he lives up to, his life will be better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a follow up; if one needs to get religious on the matter, from the Buddhist perspective (the Seven Noble Truths) &#8211; his suffering is derived from desire, and that desire is to change his orientation to meet the &#8216;requirements&#8217; or &#8216;desires&#8217; of others &#8211; the desires that he thinks are his own, are actually those of others, which he thinks, if he lives up to, his life will be better.</p>
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		By: grantdale		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2005/08/08/bbc-documentary-sad-to-be-gay/#comment-214</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 10:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Indeed, I made a similar comment &lt;I&gt;elsewhere&lt;/I&gt;.

Even if Tinkerbelle appeared and granted him his wish, would that make him content? Or would that life provide yet another set of &quot;issues&quot;, another reason to beat up on yourself?

(But that&#039;s a novel idea -- being confirmed mentally competant &lt;I&gt;before&lt;/I&gt; becoming a parent... pfft, good luck!)

Off topic again: I completely agree, 5&#039;9&quot; is a PERFECT height to be. I&#039;ve grown to tolerate (but not affirm) 6&#039;1&quot; too. For others, that is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, I made a similar comment <i>elsewhere</i>.</p>
<p>Even if Tinkerbelle appeared and granted him his wish, would that make him content? Or would that life provide yet another set of &#8220;issues&#8221;, another reason to beat up on yourself?</p>
<p>(But that&#8217;s a novel idea &#8212; being confirmed mentally competant <i>before</i> becoming a parent&#8230; pfft, good luck!)</p>
<p>Off topic again: I completely agree, 5&#8217;9&#8243; is a PERFECT height to be. I&#8217;ve grown to tolerate (but not affirm) 6&#8217;1&#8243; too. For others, that is.</p>
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		By: kaiwai		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2005/08/08/bbc-documentary-sad-to-be-gay/#comment-215</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kaiwai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 08:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;B&gt;RE: grantdale said...&lt;/B&gt;

&lt;I&gt;Indeed, I made a similar comment elsewhere.

Even if Tinkerbelle appeared and granted him his wish, would that make him content? Or would that life provide yet another set of &quot;issues&quot;, another reason to beat up on yourself?&lt;/I&gt;

He wouldn&#039;t be happy - its like a person who gets everything he or she ever wished for; even with everything, they won&#039;t be happy.

It brings up the whole philosophy of dreaming and providing inspiration - the idea of dreaming about getting something, but once got it, the lack of satisfaction.

I guess that spawns off from the philosophical ideas of how one can be materially well off, and yet, still be misserable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RE: grantdale said&#8230;</b></p>
<p><i>Indeed, I made a similar comment elsewhere.</p>
<p>Even if Tinkerbelle appeared and granted him his wish, would that make him content? Or would that life provide yet another set of &#8220;issues&#8221;, another reason to beat up on yourself?</i></p>
<p>He wouldn&#8217;t be happy &#8211; its like a person who gets everything he or she ever wished for; even with everything, they won&#8217;t be happy.</p>
<p>It brings up the whole philosophy of dreaming and providing inspiration &#8211; the idea of dreaming about getting something, but once got it, the lack of satisfaction.</p>
<p>I guess that spawns off from the philosophical ideas of how one can be materially well off, and yet, still be misserable.</p>
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		By: grantdale		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2005/08/08/bbc-documentary-sad-to-be-gay/#comment-212</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 08:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nothing wrong with snippy. I do snippy.

Apart from anything else, &quot;irascible&quot; is a word I still choke over when spelling. Brain obviously didn&#039;t wire right for that one.

And 6&#039;2&quot; is not tall? Stop being so falsely modest -- that&#039;s a vanity you know... /snip]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing wrong with snippy. I do snippy.</p>
<p>Apart from anything else, &#8220;irascible&#8221; is a word I still choke over when spelling. Brain obviously didn&#8217;t wire right for that one.</p>
<p>And 6&#8217;2&#8243; is not tall? Stop being so falsely modest &#8212; that&#8217;s a vanity you know&#8230; /snip</p>
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		By: kaiwai		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2005/08/08/bbc-documentary-sad-to-be-gay/#comment-213</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kaiwai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 05:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE: grantdale

lol, to be honest, if there was height re-adjustment surgery, I wouldn&#039;t mind being 4-6 inchs shorter, a height that is a little more &#039;normal&#039;.

MInd you, getting back to the issue at hand, just had a look, its interesting that he is seeking someone to blame, and he never actually answers *WHY* he isn&#039;t happy being gay (yeah, I see the irony of that).

And as for being a father, be he homosexual or heterosexual - he is a psychological train wreck, and quite frankly, he isn&#039;t in the position now, or even later, to be able to cope with the stresses of being a parent - until he gets his own life, in order, he shouldn&#039;t be trying to drag anyone else into the picture.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: grantdale</p>
<p>lol, to be honest, if there was height re-adjustment surgery, I wouldn&#8217;t mind being 4-6 inchs shorter, a height that is a little more &#8216;normal&#8217;.</p>
<p>MInd you, getting back to the issue at hand, just had a look, its interesting that he is seeking someone to blame, and he never actually answers *WHY* he isn&#8217;t happy being gay (yeah, I see the irony of that).</p>
<p>And as for being a father, be he homosexual or heterosexual &#8211; he is a psychological train wreck, and quite frankly, he isn&#8217;t in the position now, or even later, to be able to cope with the stresses of being a parent &#8211; until he gets his own life, in order, he shouldn&#8217;t be trying to drag anyone else into the picture.</p>
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		By: Throckmorton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 05:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[kaiwai - Is that you in that picture? You are tall, indeed. Well, I can be snippy, just ask grantdale...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kaiwai &#8211; Is that you in that picture? You are tall, indeed. Well, I can be snippy, just ask grantdale&#8230;</p>
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		By: kaiwai		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2005/08/08/bbc-documentary-sad-to-be-gay/#comment-211</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kaiwai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 05:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;Throckmorton said...
kaiwai - Is that you in that picture? You are tall, indeed. Well, I can be snippy, just ask grantdale...&lt;/I&gt;

na, I&#039;m around 6&quot;2&#039; - I look tall because my brother was too lazy to get off the couch and take a photo of me properly - hence the perception of being tall :-D

Oh, that and the fact that I have short legs, and a long body and arms - yeap, I&#039;m the walking ape :-D

I&quot;m not worried if you&#039;re a little snippy; believe me, we&#039;re all alot different when we&#039;re in person; it seems that the net allows one to throw off all the constrants one imposes on themselves in normal, everyday life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Throckmorton said&#8230;<br />
kaiwai &#8211; Is that you in that picture? You are tall, indeed. Well, I can be snippy, just ask grantdale&#8230;</i></p>
<p>na, I&#8217;m around 6&#8243;2&#8242; &#8211; I look tall because my brother was too lazy to get off the couch and take a photo of me properly &#8211; hence the perception of being tall 😀</p>
<p>Oh, that and the fact that I have short legs, and a long body and arms &#8211; yeap, I&#8217;m the walking ape 😀</p>
<p>I&#8221;m not worried if you&#8217;re a little snippy; believe me, we&#8217;re all alot different when we&#8217;re in person; it seems that the net allows one to throw off all the constrants one imposes on themselves in normal, everyday life.</p>
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		By: kaiwai		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2005/08/08/bbc-documentary-sad-to-be-gay/#comment-209</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kaiwai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 09:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;B&gt;RE: Throckmorton&lt;/B&gt;

&lt;I&gt;Well, they called me back twice and recorded David talking to me on the phone. I am not sure if I was not controversial enough for them (in that I did not try to change him or put him into the reparative box) or the habit I have of dragging my knuckles on the pavement when I walk.&lt;/I&gt;

I have a feeling he was probably expecting some hell, fire and brimstone, but found a mild mannered person on the end of the phone - you&#039;ve gotta stop being so polite, you&#039;ll give yourself a reputation for being nice :-D

As for platforms - gotta love them, the problem is, I&#039;m already tall enough as it is, wearing them would result in injuries to ones head :-(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RE: Throckmorton</b></p>
<p><i>Well, they called me back twice and recorded David talking to me on the phone. I am not sure if I was not controversial enough for them (in that I did not try to change him or put him into the reparative box) or the habit I have of dragging my knuckles on the pavement when I walk.</i></p>
<p>I have a feeling he was probably expecting some hell, fire and brimstone, but found a mild mannered person on the end of the phone &#8211; you&#8217;ve gotta stop being so polite, you&#8217;ll give yourself a reputation for being nice 😀</p>
<p>As for platforms &#8211; gotta love them, the problem is, I&#8217;m already tall enough as it is, wearing them would result in injuries to ones head 🙁</p>
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		By: Throckmorton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 00:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Clogs maybe, but never platforms. I&#039;m afraid of heights.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clogs maybe, but never platforms. I&#8217;m afraid of heights.</p>
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		By: grantdale		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2005/08/08/bbc-documentary-sad-to-be-gay/#comment-207</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2005 20:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ooh, you&#039;ve got to stop that. Doesn&#039;t it hurt?

Perhaps wear platform shoes, again -- ha ha, we&#039;ve all seen your photos from the 70&#039;s!

( Nope, it&#039;s GCC, that was 2003... :-P )]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh, you&#8217;ve got to stop that. Doesn&#8217;t it hurt?</p>
<p>Perhaps wear platform shoes, again &#8212; ha ha, we&#8217;ve all seen your photos from the 70&#8217;s!</p>
<p>( Nope, it&#8217;s GCC, that was 2003&#8230; 😛 )</p>
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