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		By: Throckmorton		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2005/08/08/assessing-sexual-orientation-in-britain/#comment-265</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 03:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Its the price you pay for inclusion I guess :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its the price you pay for inclusion I guess 🙂</p>
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		By: grantdale		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 01:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh spare me!

I&#039;m not adding any more blinkin&#039; letters. I&#039;m reverting to GAY for any and all.

cringe. I just realised that a gathering including exgays would now expand that to GLBTQIBoX]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh spare me!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not adding any more blinkin&#8217; letters. I&#8217;m reverting to GAY for any and all.</p>
<p>cringe. I just realised that a gathering including exgays would now expand that to GLBTQIBoX</p>
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		By: Throckmorton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GLBTQIBo?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GLBTQIBo?</p>
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		By: grantdale		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kaiwai!

&quot;Both-o-sexual&quot; -- priceless. This you must place copyright on.

Only one problem though, it gives me creepy thoughts of a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Botham&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tubby all-rounder&lt;/A&gt; from the 1980&#039;s. Ick! Double ick!!

For nathan: I personally don&#039;t have any issue with you deciding, now, or whenever, to pursue only a particular aspect of your sexuality (nor would I if you went the other way). It&#039;s your call; and you are able to change your mind, should you wish. As if I could do anything to stop you anyway :-P

What I do mind is that in limiting your engagement to only one aspect you seem also to expect me to forget about the other side. You &lt;I&gt;are&lt;/I&gt; both-o-sexual, and calling yourself only gay or only straight doesn&#039;t alter that.

I, for one, don&#039;t have your sort of &quot;luxury&quot;.

When talking about yourself, please don&#039;t forget others...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaiwai!</p>
<p>&#8220;Both-o-sexual&#8221; &#8212; priceless. This you must place copyright on.</p>
<p>Only one problem though, it gives me creepy thoughts of a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Botham" rel="nofollow">tubby all-rounder</a> from the 1980&#8217;s. Ick! Double ick!!</p>
<p>For nathan: I personally don&#8217;t have any issue with you deciding, now, or whenever, to pursue only a particular aspect of your sexuality (nor would I if you went the other way). It&#8217;s your call; and you are able to change your mind, should you wish. As if I could do anything to stop you anyway 😛</p>
<p>What I do mind is that in limiting your engagement to only one aspect you seem also to expect me to forget about the other side. You <i>are</i> both-o-sexual, and calling yourself only gay or only straight doesn&#8217;t alter that.</p>
<p>I, for one, don&#8217;t have your sort of &#8220;luxury&#8221;.</p>
<p>When talking about yourself, please don&#8217;t forget others&#8230;</p>
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		By: kaiwai		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE: Nathan

&lt;I&gt;You are being quite over-reactive. Just to clarify, I never said you chose to have same sex attractions (which is outside of your control) but you chose to integrate them into a fully formed gay identity. That was your choice, whether you like it or not. &lt;/I&gt;

Gay identity - there is a concept, what constitutes a &#039;gay identity&#039;? kinda like the mythical &#039;gay agenda&#039; and &#039;gay lifestyle&#039;?

&lt;I&gt;I&#039;m making a choice different from yours simply because I CAN--my sexuality is fluid enough. If I couldn&#039;t, I would&#039;ve made a similar choice as yours.&lt;/I&gt;

Just because it is fluid, doesn&#039;t mean that you&#039;ll spotaneously lose your same sex attraction - you&#039;ve simply opened another door in your life; thats all you&#039;ve done; you&#039;ve still got the same sex attractions, side by side with attractions to the opposit sex - I wouldn&#039;t use the term bisexual as it seems to indicate perfect 50/50 split between same and opposit sex attraction - so I&#039;ll class you as &#039;both-o-sexual&#039;, attraction to both sexes - not necessarily in an even, or perfect-all-the-time percentage, but attraction to both sexes, none the eless.

As for the &#039;rejection of your gay indentity&#039;, I don&#039;t see why you *need* to reject it in the first place; why not just admit you have attractions to both sexes, but at this moment in time, you feel more comfortable with females than males? that females are able to meet your intellectual, physical, emotional and spiritual needs?

The problem I have is this instant black or white paradigm you seem to have stuck yourself into - for me, I&#039;ve never closed by door to opposit sex attractions, I never know, maybe, one day I just might meet that female who will knock my socks off, but for now, my intellectual, physical, emotional and spiritual needs are met by members of the same sex.

Its not about whether you&#039;re straight or gay, my issue is this stance where  you think there must be a definate black/white, yes/no paradigm, where as I am saying, open yourself up to the two sides - if a great guy or girl comes along, why reject them, simply to suite your particular dogma? it makes no logical sense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Nathan</p>
<p><i>You are being quite over-reactive. Just to clarify, I never said you chose to have same sex attractions (which is outside of your control) but you chose to integrate them into a fully formed gay identity. That was your choice, whether you like it or not. </i></p>
<p>Gay identity &#8211; there is a concept, what constitutes a &#8216;gay identity&#8217;? kinda like the mythical &#8216;gay agenda&#8217; and &#8216;gay lifestyle&#8217;?</p>
<p><i>I&#8217;m making a choice different from yours simply because I CAN&#8211;my sexuality is fluid enough. If I couldn&#8217;t, I would&#8217;ve made a similar choice as yours.</i></p>
<p>Just because it is fluid, doesn&#8217;t mean that you&#8217;ll spotaneously lose your same sex attraction &#8211; you&#8217;ve simply opened another door in your life; thats all you&#8217;ve done; you&#8217;ve still got the same sex attractions, side by side with attractions to the opposit sex &#8211; I wouldn&#8217;t use the term bisexual as it seems to indicate perfect 50/50 split between same and opposit sex attraction &#8211; so I&#8217;ll class you as &#8216;both-o-sexual&#8217;, attraction to both sexes &#8211; not necessarily in an even, or perfect-all-the-time percentage, but attraction to both sexes, none the eless.</p>
<p>As for the &#8216;rejection of your gay indentity&#8217;, I don&#8217;t see why you *need* to reject it in the first place; why not just admit you have attractions to both sexes, but at this moment in time, you feel more comfortable with females than males? that females are able to meet your intellectual, physical, emotional and spiritual needs?</p>
<p>The problem I have is this instant black or white paradigm you seem to have stuck yourself into &#8211; for me, I&#8217;ve never closed by door to opposit sex attractions, I never know, maybe, one day I just might meet that female who will knock my socks off, but for now, my intellectual, physical, emotional and spiritual needs are met by members of the same sex.</p>
<p>Its not about whether you&#8217;re straight or gay, my issue is this stance where  you think there must be a definate black/white, yes/no paradigm, where as I am saying, open yourself up to the two sides &#8211; if a great guy or girl comes along, why reject them, simply to suite your particular dogma? it makes no logical sense.</p>
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