Comments on: Frank Worthen was the founder of Love in Action – Update

By: charlene e hios

charlene e hios — Wed, 05 Jan 2011 02:43:51 +0000

Frank Worthen just came out with his auto bi . . . if I am not mistaken he speaks of Kent and I believe will say that Kent and he were co-founders . . .I am sure Kent will be glad to talk with you again Warren . .. let me know if you need his phone number . . . .

By: Storage Closet

Storage Closet — Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:05:00 +0000

I have been surfing the net for awhile and it feels like it is taking forever to find the information I need. Finally some progress when I found your blog. I really enjoyed your most recent post. Thanks, Storage Closet

By: Throckmorton

Throckmorton — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 21:15:00 +0000

DL – I recognize that the credibility issue is perhaps threatening to many on both sides. But wow, I would think that it would be kind of interesting to those who say no one changes and that all who do go back.

By: DL Foster

DL Foster — Mon, 01 Aug 2005 19:13:00 +0000

Warren,
I too am concerned that the attack on the “founders” is being misconstrued as irrefutable proof of “failure”. It prooves notthing at all except that human failure is inherent in all pursuits of human living. Wayne Besen and associates are chasing social ghosts. Thanks for bringing the truth to light although I think that to them it may not matter if the dead arose and bore witness to it.

By: Throckmorton

Throckmorton — Mon, 01 Aug 2005 15:38:00 +0000

Founders of gay-change ministries have abysmal track records.

That is the spin that I am investigating. I found out the situation was much more nuanced with Exodus and that 4/5 actual ex-gay founders are still ex-gay. I am going to look into the LIA claims as well.

However, I still do not understand what critics hope to gain by making these claims. I cannot imagine the ex-gays I know and have worked with suddenly renouncing their lives because someone else became ex-ex-gay.

By: PBCliberal

PBCliberal — Mon, 01 Aug 2005 10:08:00 +0000

Yes, spin. Absolutely spin. The best proof I can offer is that in bolstering Philpott as an authority you call him, “the pastor who[m] all agree was a co-founder of Love In Action.”

Yet Love in Action itself, on its website, makes no mention of Rev. Philpott, referring only to Frank Worthen. Peterson Toscano, in private email, told me that he only recently learned of LIA’s early history and that Worthen’s status as sole founder was LIA dogma during his stay there.

Warren, these are not trustworthy people, or LIA wouldn’t be writing Philpott out of its history, and Philpott wouldn’t have to be taken to court to stop distribution of a book of falsehoods.

Founders of gay-change ministries have abysmal track records. The straight ones are often not forthcoming, the ex-gay ones are more often than not still gay, or at least so frustrated that the paycheck barely ameliorates the mental anguish. Listen to their obfuscations and misdirections.

Trying to rewrite history to avoid that nasty fact is futile. How many people have to die before we stop the spin and start telling the truth?

By: Throckmorton

Throckmorton — Mon, 01 Aug 2005 08:27:00 +0000

I intend to pursue this further. However, I am skeptical of the reporting of critics and want to verify those statements with Rev. Philpott myself. I am skeptical because critics continue to refer to two co-founders of Exodus (there were five founding board members), and that all founders of ex-gay ministries have become gay (they have not). Primarily, what I see is spin.

By: PBCliberal

PBCliberal — Mon, 01 Aug 2005 07:59:00 +0000

Perhaps Philpott was blinded by the memories that Evans was one of four people profiled in Philpott's book The Third Sex?? who sued him to stop continued publication of the book claiming they were successful ex-gays when they were really gay as geese. Or perhaps he just has a poor memory. When interviewed by Besen, as reported in pp 67-68 of his book Anything But Straight Philpott began the interview unable to remember Evans' last name, but by the time they were finished, his memory had so dramatically improved he was remembering details of conversations. The information is there Warren, in books you should have in your library. A 2000-era piece from Metroactive Features is hardly an independent source, since it appears to totally be sourced in an interview with Philpott. I'd suggest that an independent source would be something like Sylvia Pennington's Ex Gays: There are None since she had near contemporaneous contact with several members of Love In Action, San Rafael. Her story meshes more closely with Philpott's own book than the revisionist work being done by defendent Philpott or journalists who have more recently interviewed him who didn't know enough about the subject to press the point.