Comments on: Unbelievable: Some are trying to tie ex-gays to the Tampa murder of a toddler https://wthrockmorton.com/2005/07/16/unbelievable-some-are-trying-to-tie-ex-gays-to-the-tampa-murder-of-a-toddler/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:57:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: Saltnlight https://wthrockmorton.com/2005/07/16/unbelievable-some-are-trying-to-tie-ex-gays-to-the-tampa-murder-of-a-toddler/#comment-100 Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:57:00 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2005/07/16/unbelievable-some-are-trying-to-tie-ex-gays-to-the-tampa-murder-of-a-toddler/#comment-100 Rich and Jason:
These are two of the most intelligant and truthful posts on this subject and the subject of homosexual behavior I have ever seen.

You are to be commended for being so honest and above board.

All who have had enough of the in your face homosexuals are not haters but rather just disgusted.

The Fred Phelps’ of the world are not Christian but use that title to do their evil. God does not hate homosexuals. God hates what they do but wants them to come to Him. Fred P. and the likes of him will only cause more and more hatred toward true Christians. They make me very ashamed.

]]> By: Saltnlight https://wthrockmorton.com/2005/07/16/unbelievable-some-are-trying-to-tie-ex-gays-to-the-tampa-murder-of-a-toddler/#comment-99 Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:22:00 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2005/07/16/unbelievable-some-are-trying-to-tie-ex-gays-to-the-tampa-murder-of-a-toddler/#comment-99 pbcliberal:
The “hate” door swings both ways you know. And don’t tell me it isn’t hatred that causes homosexuals to suddenly turn against someone just because they have gone straight??

I do not hate Gays, I hate what is being done to them by their own. I hate what the liberal society is telling them because it will lead to many going to eternal damnation. I did not say that it is in God’s Word. JOH 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning.

The Word said so go read 2 Peter 2:4-13, that is if you care about your soul.

]]> By: Saltnlight https://wthrockmorton.com/2005/07/16/unbelievable-some-are-trying-to-tie-ex-gays-to-the-tampa-murder-of-a-toddler/#comment-98 Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:13:00 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2005/07/16/unbelievable-some-are-trying-to-tie-ex-gays-to-the-tampa-murder-of-a-toddler/#comment-98 This post has been removed by a blog administrator.

]]> By: Throckmorton https://wthrockmorton.com/2005/07/16/unbelievable-some-are-trying-to-tie-ex-gays-to-the-tampa-murder-of-a-toddler/#comment-97 Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:03:00 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2005/07/16/unbelievable-some-are-trying-to-tie-ex-gays-to-the-tampa-murder-of-a-toddler/#comment-97 Thanks for posting Bill and Jason…

]]> By: Jason Park https://wthrockmorton.com/2005/07/16/unbelievable-some-are-trying-to-tie-ex-gays-to-the-tampa-murder-of-a-toddler/#comment-96 Sun, 24 Jul 2005 07:51:00 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2005/07/16/unbelievable-some-are-trying-to-tie-ex-gays-to-the-tampa-murder-of-a-toddler/#comment-96 I’d like to respond to the following two comments by Kaiwai:

Like I said, if the ex-gay industry were just a bunch of people sitting around with an alternative way of thinking, I would have no qualms…

these ex-gay movements start ganging up with pastors, who hold similar views, and create a mob mentality…

What planet do you live on? What do you know about these ex-gay organizations? I know Exodus and Evergreen (two of the largest organizations) quite well, and neither of them do anything you claim. In fact, they are just sitting around purporting a philosophy that if someone does not want to be gay, there are other options and support. People seek these organizations out to find help. Exodus and Evergreen are not out on the street snatching people who walk by.

How are they “ganging up in a mob mentality?” Exodus put up one billboard to let people know they exist. How is that a mob mentality??

If you don’t want to participate in therapy or support groups, no one is making you, or anyone else. (I’ll be the first to acknowledge that in a few cases, parents force their kids to do things they don’t want to do. This is not the fault of ex-gay organizations.) People are involved in ex-gay organizations because they want to be and because they are finding the help they want. People who don’t want it stop participating. There is no mob mentality here that is forcing anyone to do anything they don’t want to do.

I’ve personally met hundreds of people who have been involved in ex-gay organizations. Some of those decided it was not for them, so they stopped participating. I have never met anyone who was harmed by it or who participated against their will.

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